Jimmy Chicken Poo Clausen

[Cavscout]

Of course, but the fact remains that other QB's can find the endzone whereas Clausen can't.

Clausen is garbage.

Very True

[Carl Spackler]

4.5/10 run blocking

1/10 pass pro

[Rags]

However, he is a rookie QB starting behind what may be one of the worst OL's to ever play in the NFL.

2009 Rams, 2008-10 Lions, 2010 Bears

all worse o-lines than our own.

[TrueBlackandBlue]

He has the worst pocket presence I have ever seen in a quarterback at any level. Yeah the O-line sucks but it doesn't help when the QB seems to be actively submitting himself to pass rushers. He either rolls into the pressure or just keep dropping back until hes being brought down for a 15 yard loss.

Maybe taking a sack is better than risking an interception. But not when the team is down by three touchdowns and its third and long because you either took a sack or threw it away on one of the first two plays.

Grow some balls. This is the NFL and you have f**king Steve Smith.

[OneBadassCat]

Eat me R0CKnR0LLA

[MadHatter]

I am sorry guys, but if you are one of the few that continue to come on here and defend the pathetic play of Jimmy Clausen, you are either dillusional or just like to start trouble.

A sane and rational person (one who actually has watched Panther games this season) cannot defend or justify his horrible play.

This past Sunday, the Panthers ran for a stellar 212 yards....yet could only muster 13 first downs and 10 points. Why? Because Jimmy Clausen cannot and will not make plays down the field in the passing game. His two plays are......dump it off to the RB or throw it out of bounds.

We managed a paltry 107 gross passing yards and 76 net passing yards.....for an entire game. That is a pathetic 2.5 yards per passing play. That statistic is terrible for a running game....but is downright embarassing for a passing game.

The Offensive Line has NOT help JJimmy this season. However, his pathetic play goes much, much deeper than that. He is unable to read the defense....unable to read through his progressions....unable to see the play developing....unalbe to step up in the pocket....plain and simple, he has ZERO pocket presence.

He is scared to death. Just like at ND, he panics when he feels the first bit of pressure.

Maybe Clausen can and will be a solid player in this league. However, he has domonstrated absolutely nothing that you can point to and say that he is a guy that you want to build your franchise around.

Those who are against drafting Luck, are primarily doing so because they don't like the idea of spending a 2nd on Clausent and then a 1st on another QB. That logic is embarassing. Don't make a pick because you made a wrong pick the year before....that is Foxesque.

Accept the fact that we are finding out what every other franchise knew...that Clausen is NOT a top tier QB.

There is a reason that EVERY team (including some that desperately need a QB) passed on Clausen TWICE.

[Proudiddy]

I am sorry guys, but if you are one of the few that continue to come on here and defend the pathetic play of Jimmy Clausen, you are either dillusional or just like to start trouble.

A sane and rational person (one who actually has watched Panther games this season) cannot defend or justify his horrible play.

This past Sunday, the Panthers ran for a stellar 212 yards....yet could only muster 13 first downs and 10 points. Why? Because Jimmy Clausen cannot and will not make plays down the field in the passing game. His two plays are......dump it off to the RB or throw it out of bounds.

We managed a paltry 107 gross passing yards and 76 net passing yards.....for an entire game. That is a pathetic 2.5 yards per passing play. That statistic is terrible for a running game....but is downright embarassing for a passing game.

The Offensive Line has NOT help JJimmy this season. However, his pathetic play goes much, much deeper than that. He is unable to read the defense....unable to read through his progressions....unable to see the play developing....unalbe to step up in the pocket....plain and simple, he has ZERO pocket presence.

He is scared to death. Just like at ND, he panics when he feels the first bit of pressure.

Maybe Clausen can and will be a solid player in this league. However, he has domonstrated absolutely nothing that you can point to and say that he is a guy that you want to build your franchise around.

Those who are against drafting Luck, are primarily doing so because they don't like the idea of spending a 2nd on Clausent and then a 1st on another QB. That logic is embarassing. Don't make a pick because you made a wrong pick the year before....that is Foxesque.

Accept the fact that we are finding out what every other franchise knew...that Clausen is NOT a top tier QB.

There is a reason that EVERY team (including some that desperately need a QB) passed on Clausen TWICE.

Looking back, with the questions KC had as to whether Cassel was legit and even if he was, they could've used a young guy to groom behind him and develop some value for later down the road... Having his college coach as their OC and he couldn't convince them to take him, and they passed over him TWICE. For them to not take him should've been the biggest red flags of all. I mean HIS COACH is there, and watched him dropping and couldn't get that staff to take him. Unbelievable.

And of course, who are the idiots that took him? And then looked like giddy school boys about it? Yup, our Carolina Panthers. I'm not trying to bash him, but as you said, he's shown nothing to make anyone believe he deserves a job as an NFL QB. What was our passing yards at the end of the first half? -6 yards or something like that. Disgusting. I didn't like him while at ND and I just didn't have a good feeling about his pro prospects.

But once he became a Panther, I put all that aside and hoped I was wrong. I looked at the bright side - with his pedigree and publicity, if he was successful, he would take our franchise to new heights... I even made a thread about that. But, then we all (or at least most, logical fans) realized he is "The Great Pretender."

It's the simplest stuff he's NOT doing that half this board could do on any one given play, if they've WATCHED football most of their life (not even played it)... Like the one deep pass he finally attempted to Gettis yesterday... Inexcusable. 6'3" guy against a 5'10" corner and you throw it on a rope and overthrow him by what? 5 yards? Give the guy a chance.

Not making adjustments after seeing their LBs listen to his calls and audible their coverage and basically re-position waiting for his pass - yet, he snaps the ball anyway and throws a pick. The throwaways, give ups, checkdowns.

Hopefully we don't have any drug addicts on this board, because admitting you have a problem... You know the rest lol.

[MadHatter]

Looking back, with the questions KC had as to whether Cassel was legit and even if he was, they could've used a young guy to groom behind him and develop some value for later down the road... Having his college coach as their OC and he couldn't convince them to take him, and they passed over him TWICE. For them to not take him should've been the biggest red flags of all. I mean HIS COACH is there, and watched him dropping and couldn't get that staff to take him. Unbelievable.

And of course, who are the idiots that took him? And then looked like giddy school boys about it? Yup, our Carolina Panthers. I'm not trying to bash him, but as you said, he's shown nothing to make anyone believe he deserves a job as an NFL QB. What was our passing yards at the end of the first half? -6 yards or something like that. Disgusting. I didn't like him while at ND and I just didn't have a good feeling about his pro prospects.

But once he became a Panther, I put all that aside and hoped I was wrong. I looked at the bright side - with his pedigree and publicity, if he was successful, he would take our franchise to new heights... I even made a thread about that. But, then we all (or at least most, logical fans) realized he is "The Great Pretender."

It's the simplest stuff he's NOT doing that half this board could do on any one given play, if they've WATCHED football most of their life (not even played it)... Like the one deep pass he finally attempted to Gettis yesterday... Inexcusable. 6'3" guy against a 5'10" corner and you throw it on a rope and overthrow him by what? 5 yards? Give the guy a chance.

Not making adjustments after seeing their LBs listen to his calls and audible their coverage and basically re-position waiting for his pass - yet, he snaps the ball anyway and throws a pick. The throwaways, give ups, checkdowns.

Hopefully we don't have any drug addicts on this board, because admitting you have a problem... You know the rest lol.

I do not blame the Panthers for taking him at #48. I thought it was a good pick. The upside was there and we were not going to pay big time money for him.

That being said, I also see that his lack of leadership and limitations are real.

[Proudiddy]

I do not blame the Panthers for taking him at #48. I thought it was a good pick. The upside was there and we were not going to pay big time money for him.

That being said, I also see that his lack of leadership and limitations are real.

Well yeah, at that time I couldn't help but feel like patting myself on the back for that pick too. A guy that was a possible Top 10 pick at #48... Sure.

Like I said, the possibility that he could turn out to be a starter and a franchise guy, and we got him at #48, would've been awesome. But, did I believe he would actually do that? We do wear some egg on our face in that sense, it'd be different if we took him and didn't have those expectations.

And I think this is why so many are having a hard time accepting his performance now. They wanted to believe he was the guy.

[mav1234]

They wanted to believe he was the guy.

this. I do think that he is not nearly as bad as his record and numbers indicate. He's just not good enough to pass right now on Andrew Luck, or to really build around. Give him a shot next year in training camp? sure, whatever. but don't try to tell me right now he's any good. he's not.

He's at the most important position on the field, so his failures are magnified.

[MadHatter]

Well yeah, at that time I couldn't help but feel like patting myself on the back for that pick too. A guy that was a possible Top 10 pick at #48... Sure.

Like I said, the possibility that he could turn out to be a starter and a franchise guy, and we got him at #48, would've been awesome. But, did I believe he would actually do that? We do wear some egg on our face in that sense, it'd be different if we took him and didn't have those expectations.

And I think this is why so many are having a hard time accepting his performance now. They wanted to believe he was the guy.

Agreed.

However the biggest egg on our faces is the fact that the Panthers actually tried to trade up to the top of the 2nd round to take him. thank God no one would make the trade....or, this could be even worse.

[Proudiddy]

Agreed.

However the biggest egg on our faces is the fact that the Panthers actually tried to trade up to the top of the 2nd round to take him. thank God no one would make the trade....or, this could be even worse.

LOL exactly... And we get tired of hearing about the Armanti deal... Whew...

[Phil Dees]

Sad thing is his QB Rating has gone down over each of the last 4 games.

That's NOT improving.

[TheRealDeal]

Sad thing is his QB Rating has gone down over each of the last 4 games.

That's NOT improving.

QB rating as a measuring stick sucks.