Yap-Yap Wins Shootout

[outlaw4]

Honestly, that's the best racing I've seen during the Shootout in a while!

[PanthersAlv]

Kyle Busch still can't bump draft.

Moron hit every car he followed as they went into the turn. it's not Martinsville dipSh*t!!!

Learn to Drive Kyle!

[Tweeder]

probably screwed JR out of the win or at least a top 5

[hmsmike]

Good racing!

[Tweeder]

Good racing!

Kevin Harvick, being patient and seizing his opportunity....yes

Kyle Busch, being an impatient moron....no

[hmsmike]

Kevin Harvick, being patient and seizing his opportunity....yes

Kyle Busch, being an impatient moron....no

Agreed and didn't he technically pass under the yellow line?? :confused:

[outlaw4]

Agreed and didn't he technically pass under the yellow line?? :confused:

He surely went under the line but I didn't see him passing anyone.

How shocking it was that the first caution was caused by Rubby Gordon.

[ProfessorPeppers]

From the highlights I saw it looked quite interesting. I had to work so I missed it, but like I said it looked like a really good race. Sorry I missed it, not so sorry I missed Harvick winning.

You guys slam Kyle all the time for bumping. I'm curious to know who your favorite drivers were back in the day. Plenty of them bumped and rubbed too. Its called racing, not a "keep the car pretty" fest.

I realize sometimes hes still young and immature and does indeed have some things to learn about driving clean etc. All I'm sayin is if you ever supported Earnhardt, D. Waltrip or Cale Yarborough, among many others, then you might wanna rethink ripping on someone for "bumping".

[Speed]

probably screwed JR out of the win or at least a top 5

Yea, that's why Jr can't win a rach. K. Bush. poo, his daddy would kick his ass for bring such a pussy racer.

[engine9]

Is it just me or do the cars seem like they're "bouncing" more or something ??

[hmsmike]

Is it just me or do the cars seem like they're "bouncing" more or something ??

True...

The cars have little to no shock adsorption due to the bump stops on the shocks.

These stops are made out of all different kinds of material (some exotic) because the goal is to have the car rest on these to get the splitter down on the track as far as possible without scrapping thus creating some great nose downforce and little air going under the car.

Since the COT & the approval to use the bump stops -- this has been the greatest tuning tool left to our creativity.

From what I understand the reason for the different materials is the property advantages that they provide like force adsorption (bounce vs adsorbing the load), stiffness, durability, thickness, ride heights, ect.

So after my tangent -- at Daytona the cars have little shock adsorption because they are heavy on these to get the nose down hence why they are bouncing around a lot more then usual!

Hopefully that overly answers your question! :thumbsup:

[engine9]

True...

The cars have little to no shock adsorption due to the bump stops on the shocks.

These stops are made out of all different kinds of material (some exotic) because the goal is to have the car rest on these to get the splitter down on the track as far as possible without scrapping thus creating some great nose downforce and little air going under the car.

Since the COT & the approval to use the bump stops -- this has been the greatest tuning tool left to our creativity.

From what I understand the reason for the different materials is the property advantages that they provide like force adsorption (bounce vs adsorbing the load), stiffness, durability, thickness, ride heights, ect.

So after my tangent -- at Daytona the cars have little shock adsorption because they are heavy on these to get the nose down hence why they are bouncing around a lot more then usual!

Hopefully that overly answers your question! :thumbsup:

awesome :smilewinkgrin:

[ProfessorPeppers]

Is it just me or do the cars seem like they're "bouncing" more or something ??

I noticed that, too. I don't know if its the track or what, but I don't seem to recall cars bouncing around Daytona that bad beforehand.

[Shamrock]

From the highlights I saw it looked quite interesting. I had to work so I missed it, but like I said it looked like a really good race. Sorry I missed it, not so sorry I missed Harvick winning.

You guys slam Kyle all the time for bumping. I'm curious to know who your favorite drivers were back in the day. Plenty of them bumped and rubbed too. Its called racing, not a "keep the car pretty" fest.

I realize sometimes hes still young and immature and does indeed have some things to learn about driving clean etc. All I'm sayin is if you ever supported Earnhardt, D. Waltrip or Cale Yarborough, among many others, then you might wanna rethink ripping on someone for "bumping".

Here's the largest (and insurmountable it seems) difference for Kyle when comparing him to Dale Sr., DW, Cale, Bobby Allison, or others. It isn't the driving style that makes people not like him. It's his attitude.

I still go back to the reason Dale Jr is in Mr. H's stable and Kyle is gone. None of these others would ever have ditched their team. I have personally witnessed a certain 'old school' driver go into his trailer pissed off hotter than a blown engine, throw poo around, come out, and once the car was rebuilt, he got back into the race for 15 measly laps, all for the points.

I have also seen Kyle act quite younger than his actual age, get pissed off and leave the track, ditching his team. Just to have Lil E have to pick it up for him and clean up whatever he could of the mess, for the points.

Hell, I remember a race where DW had no damn hood on the car. He had the front panel and the quarter panels, and his crew was able to jury-rig the hood to stay down, and he went back out on the track until the officials told him to hang it up for the day and pulled him off. That's the kind of driver I'm used to, the kind that we appreciated on the race team, and the kind that fans want to support. He didn't pout, just got his job done.

That is what Kyle should have done. But he didn't. Maybe he will mature, but you don't ditch your team. Period. He lost many points on that day with many in the sport and many fans watching...