The Blane Gabbert hype machine!

[SPANKY]

It would be nice to have a decent vet QB who could play well a couple of season's to help Jimmy, Cam, who ever end's up on the roster. Rookie QB's need some time to adjust to the speed and complexity of NFL defense's. It did'nt do Jimmy any good to be starting as a rookie, with 2 rookie WR's. Colt McCoy did'nt set the world on fire, and most of the time he looked like, well...like a rookie.

[rayzor]

People dont want to admit it but if we are crazy enough to give up a 2nd for Edwards, and a first for Brown, then we are crazy enough to take Cam with our first pick. Gabbert will more then likely go to the bills who will take just about anyone right now.

i actually think the bills and the bengals are both too smart to draft gabbert early and neither of them are really desperate enough for a QB. bengals can get another year off palmer who will probably be happier with the OC change and the bills can work with fitz for a couple more years.

the cards...it wouldn't surprise me to see them reach for gabbert. they are probably more desperate for a QB than we are.

[TerriblePizza]

If I'm going to take a questionable spread option quarterback, I'm taken Cam Newton. He's an athletic freak and is a winner.

That is, IF I take a spread option QB. I'd love for us to take Patrick Peterson.

[Ricky Spanish]

a few things regarding Gabbert:

the video posted was from the illioinois game, a game which they one, and the first game of the season. I haven't been able to find game tape yet, but all the scouts were talking about how well gabbert did as the year went on, meaning he progressed and played better.

in his game against oklahoma, who was ranked #1 at the time, Gabbert went 30/42, 308 yards, 1TD with no Picks.

against #24 Kansas state, he went 17/25 for 208 with 2TDs and a pick

The kid has produced in big games, including the bowl game he threw the boneheaded pick at the end of the game. had he not done that, Missouri wins and he's probably game MVP. Kid passed for over 400 yards in that game.

Kid can play, he's just really raw right now, like any QB coming out of college.

[rayzor]

a few things regarding Gabbert:

the video posted was from the illioinois game, a game which they one, and the first game of the season. I haven't been able to find game tape yet, but all the scouts were talking about how well gabbert did as the year went on, meaning he progressed and played better.

in his game against oklahoma, who was ranked #1 at the time, Gabbert went 30/42, 308 yards, 1TD with no Picks.

against #24 Kansas state, he went 17/25 for 208 with 2TDs and a pick

The kid has produced in big games, including the bowl game he threw the boneheaded pick at the end of the game. had he not done that, Missouri wins and he's probably game MVP. Kid passed for over 400 yards in that game.

Kid can play, he's just really raw right now, like any QB coming out of college.

all i see from that (and everything else i have seen and read about him) points to him being nothing more than an average at best QB. there is nothing even potentially elite about him.

he had a few games that someone could call respectable, but you put him up against newton or luck and the dude pales in comparison.

[DaCityKats]

we dont need two qbs that have vags......when pressure comes he curls up big time.

[Highlandfire]

gabbert isn't even good in the spread and still people have him hyped.

he shows how desperate people are for a traditional QB in this draft.

And these gimick QB's you like don't win superbowls till theylearn to stay in the pocket and throw. how many superbowls for Randall cunningham, Mike Vick etal?

You still win this game and always will by reading a defense and THROWING the ball, not running around.

[Highlandfire]

If I'm going to take a questionable spread option quarterback, I'm taken Cam Newton. He's an athletic freak and is a winner.

That is, IF I take a spread option QB. I'd love for us to take Patrick Peterson.

Winner? he had one season at a D1 school, ran from another before booted. Again someone show me how many of these athletic freaks win superbowls

[OchoNueve]

a few things regarding Gabbert:

the video posted was from the illioinois game, a game which they one...

Pertaining to the game you are trying to reference, Gabbert played worse than you spell...

[OchoNueve]

Winner? he had one season at a D1 school, ran from another before booted. Again someone show me how many of these athletic freaks win superbowls

There isn't any... not because there aren't any that have not won a superbowl, there just isn't anyone comparable to the athletic freak Cam Newton is.

[monstercat]

And these gimick QB's you like don't win superbowls till theylearn to stay in the pocket and throw. how many superbowls for Randall cunningham, Mike Vick etal?

You still win this game and always will by reading a defense and THROWING the ball, not running around.

This is a ridiculous argument, because there have only been a small handful of running QB's in the history of the NFL, but there have been hundreds of pocket passers.

FTR though, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben all run quite a bit and they all have rings, and Steve McNair just missed winning one by 1 single yard. Meanwhile, Dan Marino, who is one of the best pocket passers of all time, never won a Super Bowl.

[csx]

This is a ridiculous argument, because there have only been a small handful of running QB's in the history of the NFL, but there have been hundreds of pocket passers.

FTR though, Steve Young, Aaron Rodgers, and Big Ben all run quite a bit and they all have rings, and Steve McNair just missed winning one by 1 single yard. Meanwhile, Dan Marino, who is one of the best pocket passers of all time, never won a Super Bowl.

A small handful good enough to have any success at all. Plenty have been drafted.

[monstercat]

A small handful good enough to have any success at all. Plenty have been drafted.

Name them then, because I sure as heck don't remember seeing a long line of elite black athletes being drafted to play QB over the years. Most of them were forced to either change positions or go to Canada to play QB.

[rayzor]

And these gimick QB's you like don't win superbowls till theylearn to stay in the pocket and throw. how many superbowls for Randall cunningham, Mike Vick etal?

You still win this game and always will by reading a defense and THROWING the ball, not running around.

you win the game by dominating and controlling the opposing defense. you control what they do and force them to react to what you're doing. you do it by keeping plays alive and making things happen, either by waiting for someone to open up or moving the ball forward yourself.

the designation "gimmick" QB is even worse than "running" QB. i hate categorizations because it makes false assumptions about players and forces people to put players in a box so they don't have to think anymore or thnk critically about individual players. it's lazy.

a good coach can figure out a way for someone to utilize their ability to be a double threat QB just like they can using any strength of any player. they can scheme so that a QB who runs and throws effectively can use both to dominate the other side. a smart QB who can do both well often uses it. you'll see it with luck and you'll see it with newton. you saw it with steve young, fran tarkenton, randall cunningham, and you're seeing it with aaron rodgers and to an extent, big ben.

oh...and about them not winning a superbowl...since when do QBs win superbowls all by themselves? was marino not a good QB because he didn't win the big one? how about jim kelly or boomer esiason or warren moon or dan fouts or fran tarkenton? would manning or drew brees have been considered as great QBs if they not won one? if mcnabb doesn't ever win one, does that mean he was a bad QB?

might as well say andy reid, schotty, or dan reeves weren't good coaches because they didn't win a ring.