Rumor. Canes trading for Tomas Hertl

[Panthers Fan 69]

Big center from Vegas. Stay tuned! 

[PantherChris]

Would fill a huge need at 2C

[PNW_PantherMan]

We're not gonna win any FA sweepstakes so now we're trading for bad contracts?  Not sure about this one.

[PantherChris]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We're not gonna win any FA sweepstakes so now we're trading for bad contracts?  Not sure about this one.

What are you smoking? Hertl will have a 6.45M cap hit for four years because san Jose retained when he went to vegas......

 

6.45M for a 30+ goal high end 2C....

 

 

[carpanfan96]

Marner to LV if the trade goes through. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

2 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

What are you smoking? Hertl will have a 6.45M cap hit for four years because san Jose retained when he went to vegas......

 

6.45M for a 30+ goal high end 2C....

 

 

I didn't say he's a bad player.  But he's signed through 36 years old.  I just said I'm not sure about it.

[KingKucci]

13 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I didn't say he's a bad player.  But he's signed through 36 years old.  I just said I'm not sure about it.

We do like old guys Burns cough Staal cough...Guenzel

was over 30..

[PantherChris]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I didn't say he's a bad player.  But he's signed through 36 years old.  I just said I'm not sure about it.

Hes a big physical center, great shot and playmaker below/between the dots excellent PP and bumper player.... 

His game isn't likely to dissappear with four years of age....

 

This is just 2m more than useless KK.  2C is a HUGE whole and he is one of the better 2Cs.

 

 

[PantherChris]

52 minutes ago, KingKucci said:

We do like old guys Burns cough Staal cough...Guenzel

was over 30..

30 isnt the same in the NHL as the NFL....

A big physical 2C who can give you 30+ goals would move us a lot closer to a cup than a wing IMO.

 

 

[carpanfan96]

Tulsky out on Marner since he wants short term. So trying to facilitate a trade with either Vegas or Dallas to help them clear space to sign Marner. 

 

Vegas would be Hertl and Dallas would be for Robertson. 

 

Either deal is contingent on the other team being confident enough that they will be the team to win the Marner sweepstakes. 

 

Edit to add: 

 

Vegas deal seems 95% likely to happen shortly. A few Wolves players and draft picks for Hertl the current deal. 

Edited 3 hours ago by carpanfan96

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

30 isnt the same in the NHL as the NFL....

A big physical 2C who can give you 30+ goals would move us a lot closer to a cup than a wing IMO.

 

 

True but he wouldn't be the first physical C that falls off in his early 30's.  Look at David Backes.  https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/backeda01.html

[PNW_PantherMan]

44 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Tulsky out on Marner since he wants short term. So trying to facilitate a trade with either Vegas or Dallas to help them clear space to sign Marner. 

 

Vegas would be Hertl and Dallas would be for Robertson. 

 

Either deal is contingent on the other team being confident enough that they will be the team to win the Marner sweepstakes. 

 

Edit to add: 

 

Vegas deal seems 95% likely to happen shortly. A few Wolves players and draft picks for Hertl the current deal. 

Short term would almost make Marner more appealing for me if I'm the Canes GM.  If it doesn't work out, you're not stuck with some albatross contract.  If it does workout, nobody's gonna be mad about winning a cup.  Everyone loses pieces when that happens.

Edited 2 hours ago by PNW_PantherMan

[PNW_PantherMan]

Not against a deal for Hertl.  The contract length gives me some pause, but ~6.5MM AAV (after SJ retained %) probably isn't a big deal if we have some dead years at the end of that.  But yeah, could potentially be another KK situation where we have a useless player stuck on our payroll if he falls off a cliff.

If this is purely a salary dump and nothing of value goes the other way, I think it's probably worth that risk.

[carpanfan96]

12 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Not against a deal for Hertl.  The contract length gives me some pause, but ~6.5MM AAV (after SJ retained %) probably isn't a big deal if we have some dead years at the end of that.  But yeah, could potentially be another KK situation where we have a useless player stuck on our payroll if he falls off a cliff.

If this is purely a salary dump and nothing of value goes the other way, I think it's probably worth that risk.

It was purely a salary dump with the biggest piece going to Vegas was a 3rd. Seems dead for now though. Dunno if Hertl vetod the trade with his move clause or not.