2025 College Football Thread

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think he viewed this as his proof of concept for his triumphant return to the NFL. It always seemed drenched in some level of hubris. That he would waltz in, be a massive success and have ample NFL grovelers at his feet.

Also not very rooted in reality. Truthfully, he was almost always a terrible personnel evaluator and that doomed New England to being the dumpster fire they are now.

worst part is, UNC/Bill PR seems to have made the Jordan nonsense go away.....and it appears that might be the most entertaining part of Bill at UNC. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

Agreed but the transfer portal needs some limitations.  It basically means nothing to have someone on your team, because they can play for 3 or 4 schools if they want.  Maybe you get 1 transfer and then you have to sit out a year.

Yeah, I honestly think Jay Bilas has had the best idea that I've heard. You basically have to treat this as what it has become - it's professional sports loosely tied to colleges. You have to sign these kids to contracts with buyouts. If an Alabama or OSU comes after your guy you already have a contract with a buyout. If they take your guy they owe you money. Have salary caps just like the NFL and those buyouts count toward the cap. The schools that can't afford to spend near the cap will ultimately fall off and gravitate toward the non-major conferences.

It's basically just a new alignment of D1 and D1AA and there probably only need to be 30-40 at most schools in the top tier.

[kungfoodude]

15 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Agreed but the transfer portal needs some limitations.  It basically means nothing to have someone on your team, because they can play for 3 or 4 schools if they want.  Maybe you get 1 transfer and then you have to sit out a year.

I don't agree. Free agency exists in the pros so if they want that version, then have contracts. 

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I honestly think Jay Bilas has had the best idea that I've heard. You basically have to treat this as what it has become - it's professional sports loosely tied to colleges. You have to sign these kids to contracts with buyouts. If an Alabama or OSU comes after your guy you already have a contract with a buyout. If they take your guy they owe you money. Have salary caps just like the NFL and those buyouts count toward the cap. The schools that can't afford to spend near the cap will ultimately fall off and gravitate toward the non-major conferences.

It's basically just a new alignment of D1 and D1AA and there probably only need to be 30-40 at most schools in the top tier.

Pretty much the entire ACC minus perhaps Clemson and FSU would be outside that agreement. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I don't agree. Free agency exists in the pros so if they want that version, then have contracts. 

You're only in school for 3-5 years so it's really 6 in one hand and half a dozen in the other.  Contract or transfer portal restriction has the same effect on player mobility.  Either way, the NFL doesn't have year by year contracts where everyone can freely enter FA every offseason.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

You're only in school for 3-5 years so it's really 6 in one hand and half a dozen in the other.  Contract or transfer portal restriction has the same effect on player mobility.  Either way, the NFL doesn't have year by year contracts where everyone can freely enter FA every offseason.

If the coaches have freedom of movement and if the regular students have freedom of movement, so should the athletes.

Tired of this fake "student athlete" crap that they have pushed for decades when what they meant was unpaid labor.

I am perfectly fine with free agency every offseason until real contracts exist.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Pretty much the entire ACC minus perhaps Clemson and FSU would be outside that agreement. 

It doesn't come down to current performance. It comes down to ability and willingness to spend. UNC would be there, probably hovering near the bottom in football and competing in basketball. You know, pretty much same as it ever was.

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It doesn't come down to current performance. It comes down to ability and willingness to spend. UNC would be there, probably hovering near the bottom in football and competing in basketball. You know, pretty much same as it ever was.

Yeah, that's what I mean. It will basically be a football organization filled with the deepest pockets and best markets. 

That likely excludes almost if not all the ACC.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that's what I mean. It will basically be a football organization filled with the deepest pockets and best markets. 

That likely excludes almost if not all the ACC.

Oh for sure, most of the ACC would be out.  All those schools whose fans chant "SEC! SEC! SEC!" so that they can ride the coattails of the actual good teams would be out. The bottom half of the Big10 would be out. It would be a complete realignment.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh for sure, most of the ACC would be out.  All those schools whose fans chant "SEC! SEC! SEC!" so that they can ride the coattails of the actual good teams would be out. The bottom half of the Big10 would be out. It would be a complete realignment.

Yeah, lot of these chirping fans would quickly find out their real place.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, lot of these chirping fans would quickly find out their real place.

And honestly you have to divorce basketball from football. A lot more schools could probably afford to compete in the top tier of basketball vs. football. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

And honestly you have to divorce basketball from football. A lot more schools could probably afford to compete in the top tier of basketball vs. football. 

It just gets more extreme as you go down the sports totem pole.  I was watching the women's college softball championship, and the team that won had a 1 million dollar pitcher.  They made a pretty big deal about it on the broadcast, as she was basically the biggest prize in the sport by far.  How many women's softball programs can spend 1 million on an ace pitcher?

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It just gets more extreme as you go down the sports totem pole.  I was watching the women's college softball championship, and the team that won had a 1 million dollar pitcher.  They made a pretty big deal about it on the broadcast, as she was basically the biggest prize in the sport by far.  How many women's softball programs can spend 1 million on an ace pitcher?

That's insane. I have to imagine that women's softball is a losing proposition for almost every school. Hell, everything outside of football and men's basketball probably is. They're called the "revenue sports" for a reason. Those sports basically fund the rest of the athletic department.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's insane. I have to imagine that women's softball is a losing proposition for almost every school. Hell, everything outside of football and men's basketball probably is. They're called the "revenue sports" for a reason. Those sports basically fund the rest of the athletic department.

Yep and that is at Texas Tech, who pulls in a massive chunk of money from both of those sports.