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I'm all for paying a coach big money. I just thought hiring an NFL lifer who is 73 years old and seems to clearly be going through some sort of late life crisis was a big mistake. All of that media attention is coming back to bite us in the ass in a big way now. It's still there, it's just focused on us being a complete clown show.

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43 minutes ago, CRA said:

but if the Panthers hired Dabo next year, why would I need to give you a name of a better hire to call the bad Dabo hire, a bad hire?  It's the same thing.    

If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. 

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and you can literally buy almost any player.  Heck UNC could of paid Air Noland that oddly went down to SC to improve their QB situation. 

UNC is 30th in NIL budget, "buying any player" isn't realistic.

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3 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

Dan Mullen I could get with.  Matt Entz is a complete unknown.

The one thing neither of those two would've done is have UNC football constantly on Sportscenter, Pat McAfee, 60 Minutes, etc. over the course of the spring and summer.  That isn't translating to wins, so it means nothing, but at the time the coverage was excellent PR and excitement for the program.

And now UNC is the utter laughingstock of all of those same programs that were "good for PR."

How do you think that is gonna work out for recruiting? How do you think BB is going to handle something that he has never had to in his life, negative recruiting?

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

And now UNC is the utter laughingstock of all of those same programs that were "good for PR."

How do you think that is gonna work out for recruiting? How do you think BB is going to handle something that he has never had to in his life, negative recruiting?

Definitely swung and missed, so far.  Better than looking at strike 3, which is what Mack was for years.

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2 minutes ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

 

Definitely swung and missed, so far.  Better than looking at strike 3, which is what Mack was for years.

Mack was the right hire at the time. Fedora drove us into the dumpster and Mack was a guy who had proven success at the college level including in Chapel Hill. I don't think folks were lining up to jump on the opportunity and we needed somebody to come in a stabilize us and bring some credibility. Mack checked all the boxes. It's just that he wanted to stay on past his expiration date. If he'd stepped aside going into Maye's final season giving us a chance to go big game hunting with a Heisman contender as bait we could be flying high right now and Mack would be celebrated as the guy who built the bridge to get us there.

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30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Mack was the right hire at the time. Fedora drove us into the dumpster and Mack was a guy who had proven success at the college level including in Chapel Hill. I don't think folks were lining up to jump on the opportunity and we needed somebody to come in a stabilize us and bring some credibility. Mack checked all the boxes. It's just that he wanted to stay on past his expiration date. If he'd stepped aside going into Maye's final season giving us a chance to go big game hunting with a Heisman contender as bait we could be flying high right now and Mack would be celebrated as the guy who built the bridge to get us there.

Agree with this entire post. 

My "looking at strike three" comment was referring to Mack's last few years where he was on cruise control.

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2 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

 

Definitely swung and missed, so far.  Better than looking at strike 3, which is what Mack was for years.

That's the danger of getting guys close to retirement or should have already retired.

But then you turn around and hire an even less qualified and capable guy than him.

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3 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. 

UNC is 30th in NIL budget, "buying any player" isn't realistic.

You're working off of old information. We were spending about $4M in NIL under Mack. We had to commit in Belichick's contract to spending the NIL max which is around $20M plus Belichick's $10M plus another $10M for the rest of the staff, another $1M to S&C staff and $5M for the football office staff. The issue is absolutely NOT lack of resources as badly as you want that to be true. We are absolutely spending our asses off and you're seeing what that bought us. Stop lying to yourself. People say you can just buy a team in the NIL era and in a lot of ways that's true, or... you can just buy yourself an organization of crony nepotism. We chose the latter. Hope Bill and company enjoy that $$$.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bill-belichick-unc-business-of-football#:~:text=And%2C perhaps most importantly%2C UNC,so before their Bowl games.

Of course, Belichick is not naive. He is aware of the new financial realities that he will have to deal with and, with the leverage he had coming there, required UNC to ante up to make his transition easier and more resourceful. In addition to his $10 million salary, Belichick can spend $10 million on his coaching staff, $1 million on strength and conditioning staff, and $5 million on office staff that includes his longtime colleague Michael Lombardi for the position of general manager. And, perhaps most importantly, UNC has agreed to seriously upgrade its NIL budget from $4 million to the maximum allowable under the new revenue sharing system coming, which will likely be around $20 million.

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3 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. 

UNC is 30th in NIL budget, "buying any player" isn't realistic.

Might want to pull her tail up and look

 

 

Kidding!   

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ACC looking like 3 teams in the playoff.  Miami win or lose next week probably wins out.  FSU with a much tougher schedule but clearly can get there.  Ga Tech almost certainly wins out until Georgia. Good stuff.  No reason to think Tech can’t beat Georgia either

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4 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

You threw out some random what if scenario that has nothing to do with what anyone was talking about. So I did the same thing. 

Critiquing a college team hiring Belichick as dumb and a NFL team hiring Dabo as dumb….are both reasonable assertions that exercise similar thought processes. 

and in neither case do you need to “name someone better” before making those relatively easy to make critiques. 

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