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Do You Agree With These Excuses?


Hoenheim
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The only thing that is annoying about this is these nerds envision a perfect world where data is perfect and results are perfect and everything is so perfect. THAT WORLD DOESNT EXIST. Things go wrong! Did Bryce's teammates let him down a few times, YES! He can shoulder plenty of the blame though as well.

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8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

There are very few quarterbacks I would be comfortable ascribing that ability to.

The vast majority require a strong team and organization around them to succeed.

Bryce clearly isn't one of those guys, and he's never going to be one of those guys, but you don't absolutely have to have one of those guys if you have the right team building.

I don't really think I have to say whether or not we have that here 😕

 

Pretty much on point. I’ll admit, I used to be one of Cam Newton’s staunch defenders back in the day, so I understand the instinct to pull positives out of a QB you believe is unfairly judged. I'm sure I was quite overbearing as well with that, lol.

Is some of the criticism of Bryce Young over the top? Maybe. But there are also plenty of fair points. For what the Panthers gave up to draft him, you’d expect a bigger return by year three, not the level of struggle we’re still seeing.

Sure, the offense as a whole rarely looks in sync, but that doesn’t excuse us from asking whether Bryce is worth the pick. At this point, the bigger question is how the Panthers want to move forward. Do they lean into Bryce’s limitations, tighten the support around him, and hope improved coaching/playcalling can make it work? I’m not even sure Canales’ system is a natural fit for him.

Or do they reset at QB, target someone who fits Canales’ offense better, and ideally land a player with the off-structure ability and athleticism to elevate the rest of this unit’s flaws? AKA what Bryce Younf was supposed to be, but with the typical NFL arm and athleticism to back that up. That type of QB might succeed where Bryce has struggled.

For now, the team stays the course with Young. But if he doesn’t show real growth soon, it’s going to force some tough decisions. 

Granted, we should've made those tough decisions a couple of years ago...

 

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18 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Is it actually  mostly everyone else's fault? 🤔  

 

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What? Are we supposed to take seriously the opinions of some random dude with a degree in Post-structuralist Gender Ecology and Intersectional Hermeneutics of Gertrude Stein and Gloria Steinem?

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