Bryce Young is a problem — what would you do if you were Dan Morgan?

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12 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

 

The Huddle would blame a weak armed man for losing a QBing contest.
 
 

 

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

lol when all else fails blame the fans 

It's so bizarre. It is the immediate go to for some people. They act like this is the prime Cam years when people were attacking him despite changing our culture making us relevant across the league and more often than not keeping us competitive. This is not that. This has not been that for a long time. And Bryce Young is at this point in time a downgrade to every QB we have started since Cam. But the fans are the problem!

[Loyalty4Life]

The question was if you were Morgan what would you do with the team since Bryce is a bust.  I don't agree at all he is and I certainly don't blame the fans for his play.

Fans being short sighted and dumb is totally separate from the question posed and in no way did I say or indicate that my fault of any coaching or on field play is the fault of said fans.

My answer is I would Keep Pounding and methodically building.  If Bryce turns out to be a bust, then yes, horrible mistake.  The trade capital makes it even worse.  Just because we traded up for Bryce doesn't change anything now.  We begged for a methodical build and now we are doing it.  Right now.  And all it took was one bad game after all the progress last year for you to fold.

If the Jags game is just another dip in the Bryce/Canales stock on the way up then the plan is still working.

Canales, Morgan and company are one year in.  Building methodically.  Improving overall.  One bad game doesn't prove me right or you wrong.  And Bryce's play, which was bad, in that game isn't the last straw saying, yep, now there's is zero chance.  Let's cut him, maybe fire the coach, look for a new GM and start all over again.

Edited 2 hours ago by Loyalty4Life

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19 minutes ago, frankw said:

It's so bizarre. It is the immediate go to for some people. They act like this is the prime Cam years when people were attacking him despite changing our culture making us relevant across the league and more often than not keeping us competitive. This is not that. This has not been that for a long time. And Bryce Young is at this point in time a downgrade to every QB we have started since Cam. But the fans are the problem!

I'm on record as saying Bryce has a looooonnnngg way to go to even be in Cam's shadow.  Cam was a phenom.  I'm not comparing Bryce to Cam or even holding him to an expectation of what a #1 overall pick should be.  

Doesn't matter where you're drafted.  Could care less.  Sometimes you get Cam with the first pick and sometimes you get Trey Lance.  Tom Brady or Brock Purdy.  All I care about is they are on the team now and part of the plan and the process.  All I care about is if we end up with a good NFL QB who'll allow us to compete for chips.  Bryce's journey isn't Cams.  Very, very few are.  

If it makes you feel better, pretend we drafted Bryce in the 7th round.  

 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I'm on record as saying Bryce has a looooonnnngg way to go to even be in Cam's shadow.  Cam was a phenom.  I'm not comparing Bryce to Cam or even holding him to an expectation of what a #1 overall pick should be.  

Doesn't matter where you're drafted.  Could care less.  Sometimes you get Cam with the first pick and sometimes you get Trey Lance.  Tom Brady or Brock Purdy.  All I care about is they are on the team now and part of the plan and the process.  All I care about is if we end up with a good NFL QB who'll allow us to compete for chips.  Bryce's journey isn't Cams.  Very, very few are.  

If it makes you feel better, pretend we drafted Bryce in the 7th round.  

 

We didn’t even need the first pick. We had plenty of options. Virtually no one here wanted to trade up and they certainly didn't want to give up our best WR to do it. Which was and is comically stupid. We are where we are now because of the Tepper's. Full stop.

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6 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I'm on record as saying Bryce has a looooonnnngg way to go to even be in Cam's shadow.  Cam was a phenom.  I'm not comparing Bryce to Cam or even holding him to an expectation of what a #1 overall pick should be.  

Doesn't matter where you're drafted.  Could care less.  Sometimes you get Cam with the first pick and sometimes you get Trey Lance.  Tom Brady or Brock Purdy.  All I care about is they are on the team now and part of the plan and the process.  All I care about is if we end up with a good NFL QB who'll allow us to compete for chips.  Bryce's journey isn't Cams.  Very, very few are.  

If it makes you feel better, pretend we drafted Bryce in the 7th round.  

 

Draft position does matter though, if young was drafted in the 4th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

We didn’t even need the first pick. We had plenty of options. Virtually no one here wanted to trade up and they certainly didn't want to give up our best WR to do it. Which was and is comically stupid. We are where we are now because of the Tepper's. Full stop.

Sure.  Fine.  What does that have to do with the path forward or the original question posed?

I wasn't crazy about the trade up either but I understand it after all the strikeouts trying to find a good QB over the last 5-7 years.  

[frankw]

Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

Sure.  Fine.  What does that have to do with the path forward or the original question posed?

I wasn't crazy about the trade up either but I understand it after all the strikeouts trying to find a good QB over the last 5-7 years.  

The problem isn't just that we traded up we traded up gave up a haul and took the physical outlier instead of the best pure passer. 

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3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Draft position does matter though, if young was drafted in the 4th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick.

Draft position does matter though, if Brock Purdy was drafted in the 7th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick like Trey Lance.

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Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

Draft position does matter though, if Brock Purdy was drafted in the 7th round he would have never seen the field and probably would have been cut by now. Its very different when you trade the farm for a #1 overall pick like Trey Lance.

Brock Purdy is good though and Lance sucks like Young. What's your point?

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

The problem isn't just that we traded up we traded up gave up a haul and took the physical outlier instead of the best pure passer. 

Am I in a different thread?  

Can someone make a thread to discuss if we should should have picked CJ?

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4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Brock Purdy is good though and Lance sucks like Young. What's your point?

I literally used your own words and put in a 7th round QB who turned out to be great and a first overall pick who turned out to be a dud.  It's to illustration my point that it really doesn't matter where you are drafted.  I can lead you to the water but I can't make you drink.

By your own logic Purdy should have never seen the field and been cut if draft position really matters as it relates to your play on the field.

Edited 2 hours ago by Loyalty4Life

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Just now, Loyalty4Life said:

I literally used your own words and put in a 7th round QB who turned out to be great and a first overall pick who turned out to be a dud.  It's to illustration my point that it really doesn't matter where you are drafted.  I can lead you to the water but I can't make you drink.

 lol

[Loyalty4Life]

Just now, Shotgun said:

 lol

 Keep pounding.