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Bryce's Achilles Heel Is Not What You Think It Is

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21 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

It's comical at this point.  Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the NFL going on 3 years now and folks still make excuses

I'm just wondering why TF didn't Cam get these kind of excuses from his own fanbase? One mediocre game and fans would be calling for his head, let alone 3 years of TERRIBLE play. I know people around here are old enough to remember the "start Derek Anderson" days.

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bro, the highest paid OL AND Chubba is a dang good setup.   That's what Bryce had last year.  

Rico Dowdle doing some historical poo for 2 weeks this year, doesn't mean Hubbard isn't a rock solid RB. 

See.....this is what Bryce defending does.  So much gymnastics that you end up where you just did. 

Nope. I said he has been very consistent but he left alot of meat on the bones. You interpreted it how you wanted. If you can't see that, then well...

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You can’t be serious 

Dead serious. Put Hurts on this team and import their offensive system and we could largely duplicate what they do. Our OL is at least as good. They have two really good WRs but the offense isn't really built to heat utilize them. Barkley has regressed pretty hard from last year's peak. Dowdle is literally out playing him. Hell, he's outplaying every RB in the league over the past two weeks. THAT is the story with the Panthers right now. Yeah, Bryce has been playing better again but he's been playing better while riding a backup RB who has been the best offensive player in the league over the past two weeks.

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2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

They've won those last 2 games too. Bryce hasn't brought them down. He's actually made big plays in those games. Dowdle has been the star though for sure. And yo know AJ Brown and Smith change the way defense play the Eagles. Exchange him for Legette or Tremayne and things would be very different. 

Yeah, Bryce is basically playing like an average starter while riding the best RB in the league. Not saying Dowdle is the best RB in the league overall, but he has been over the past two weeks.

 

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2 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Nope. I said he has been very consistent but he left alot of meat on the bones. You interpreted it how you wanted. If you can't see that, then well...

Jalen Hurts was pulling it off w/ Miles Sanders.  You poo'd on Hubbard as not being enough for him. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Bryce is basically playing like an average starter while riding the best RB in the league. Not saying Dowdle is the best RB in the league overall, but he has been over the past two weeks.

 

Yep. That's what I said at the beginning before "feelings". He's not playing bottom tier. He's average right now. 

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8 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jalen Hurts was pulling it off w/ Miles Sanders.  You poo'd on Hubbard as not being enough for him. 

Miles Sanders rushed for damn near 1300 yards in Philly. More than any season for Chuba. And I didn't "poo" on Chuba. That's your interpretation. I think he's a gritty between the tackles running back, but he isn't a homerun threat. Never has been. He's a consistent get you positive yards back. 

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7 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Yep. That's what I said at the beginning before "feelings". He's not playing bottom tier. He's average right now. 

He's played like an average starter in maybe a third of his career games. Below average to bad in the rest. My point is that if you put a 200 yard RB behind pretty much any NFL roster caliber QB he's going to be able to play like an average starter leaning on that running game. But we're talking about a third year #1 overall pick with 30+ starts under his belt and we're still having to grade on a massive curve like we're playing some young mid-round pick who was drafted to be a backup. If that was the type of guy we were playing yeah, everyone could be happy about it but it's not. It's a guy we mortgaged the franchise on because the organization thought they were getting a franchise QB who could carry a team and we're still having to try to find ways to carry him.

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3 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Miles Sanders rushed for damn near 1300 yards in Philly. More than any season for Chuba. And I didn't "poo" on Chuba. That's your interpretation. I think he's a gritty between the tackles running back, but he isn't a homerun threat. Never has been. He's a consistent get you positive yards back. 

He rushed for 74 more yards than Chuba did last year. He also played in all 17 games versus 15 for Chuba.

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27 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Miles Sanders rushed for damn near 1300 yards in Philly. More than any season for Chuba. And I didn't "poo" on Chuba. That's your interpretation. I think he's a gritty between the tackles running back, but he isn't a homerun threat. Never has been. He's a consistent get you positive yards back. 

They went the playoffs before that with Hurts being the #1 rusher on the team.  The highest paid OL and Hubbard would be plenty for Hurst to lead a more productive O than Bryce.   He doesn’t have to be a take it to the house RB to out pace Bryce Young lol

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35 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Miles Sanders rushed for damn near 1300 yards in Philly. More than any season for Chuba. And I didn't "poo" on Chuba. That's your interpretation. I think he's a gritty between the tackles running back, but he isn't a homerun threat. Never has been. He's a consistent get you positive yards back. 

Sanders rushed for 74 per game, then Swift rushed for 65 per game the next year…..and in 2024 Hubbard rushed for 73 per game.  

Hubbard paired with the highest paid OL is plenty for Hurt to run read option and make some easy passes with and THAT is going to outpace a BY offense (which the last 2 isn’t Rico games) 

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16 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

The point was Miles Sanders wasn't just a guy in Philly. He was at least as good as Chuba has been in Carolina. 

In your opinion, in what year do the excuses stop for bryce?  I mean the most expensive line in football, a top tier rb, 2 first round wr's.  So tell me at what point do you simply just accept he isnt a good nfl qb?

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