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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but if you are talking about something like an extremely rarely used or needed play like a QB sneak, it's already a pretty off the rails argument. That doesn't factor in enough to W's and L's to be something that is particularly relevant. 

If you want to talk overall arm strength, field vision, footwork, consistency, athleticism, etc on Bryce, those are all valid critiques of his game and why he hasn't been successful. But the oddball obsessions about pretty meaningless aspects are a bit bizarre. QB sneaks? Not enough 40+ yard passes? Workout regimen??

Guys....there is ample stuff to criticize without this kind of nonsense.

I don't think the eagles win a SB without being able to qb sneak. Brady might not have as many rings if he couldnt do it as well.

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3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That is a very different and very unfair comparison for literally all 31 other teams. They have that stupid, unwatchable play they run to a ton of success that no other team can do at that level. fug them and that crap. Can't wait until the league bans it.

They also false start every time they do it those fuggin sh*t birds.

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2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I don't think the eagles win a SB without being able to qb sneak. Brady might not have as many rings if he couldnt do it as well.

I mean, I don't even know how to respond to that. You are making the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill I think I have ever seen.

How often do non-Eagles teams run a QB sneak on average per season? Probably 5-10 plays? So you truly believe those pittance of plays is what makes Superbowl champs?

So....what happened with Cam then? Josh Allen?

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1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

They also false start every time they do it those fuggin sh*t birds.

I am glad it's annoying the officials too. Hopefully the traction this offseason is to ban that unwatchable rugby BS.

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Lets hope it don't take long to mend.  Andy needs to knock some more rust off and show us why he is The Man after The Man hurt.  

If that was on purpose I think NFL will be swift in docking one's paycheck!!   

Go Panthers!!!!!!!!

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16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, I don't even know how to respond to that. You are making the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill I think I have ever seen.

How often do non-Eagles teams run a QB sneak on average per season? Probably 5-10 plays? So you truly believe those pittance of plays is what makes Superbowl champs?

So....what happened with Cam then? Josh Allen?

• Extremely high success rate: Data consistently shows that QB sneaks convert first downs or touchdowns at a significantly higher rate than other plays in short-yardage situations. One study of NFL data found that sneaks on third or fourth-and-1 converted 86.5% of the time, compared to 68.7% for running back carries.

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1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

• Extremely high success rate: Data consistently shows that QB sneaks convert first downs or touchdowns at a significantly higher rate than other plays in short-yardage situations. One study of NFL data found that sneaks on third or fourth-and-1 converted 86.5% of the time, compared to 68.7% for running back carries.

And you think non-Eagles teams are running QB sneaks how many times a season?

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I don't think its a coincidence that Brady has the most qb sneaks and tiles in NFL history. (157 qb sneaks) He must of thought they were important.

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28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

  You are making the biggest mountain out of the smallest molehill I think I have ever seen.

 

And by the way...its what i do. Ask my wife. lol

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5 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I don't think its a coincidence that Brady has the most qb sneaks and tiles in NFL history. (157 qb sneaks) He must of thought they were important.

So I looked into some of the data and here are some things I came up with using this specific article from the NFL:

https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/analytics/stats-articles/what-we-learned-about-quarterback-push-sneaks-during-the-2022-nfl-season/

 

So, skipping all the math in determining the total amount of plays in that six year span and averaging it out on a per game basis for all 32 teams, it basically comes out to 6.8 "sneak" plays per season from 2017-2022. So, I also assumed since the basis of this article is on the rise of sneak plays in general over the time period that it has increased at a linear scale until this current season(2025). That would mean basically 9 sneak plays per season, per team. 

Using the figures from your article snippet regarding success rate(assuming it is current/accurate) of traditional running plays vs. sneak plays that it would result in a total of 1.6 less successful plays per season without the ability to run a QB sneak at all.

I guess my question is, what 1.6 plays have you see each year Bryce that would have resulted in.....well...much of anything different?

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I am glad it's annoying the officials too. Hopefully the traction this offseason is to ban that unwatchable rugby BS.

It used to be illegal. Should still be illegal. Not American football. 

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2 minutes ago, strato said:

It used to be illegal. Should still be illegal. Not American football. 

They should ban all pushing or pulling of offensive players by other offensive players 

The offense has enough fuging advantages.

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great time for this meme..

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

They should ban all pushing or pulling of offensive players by other offensive players 

The offense has enough fuging advantages.

It seems to be on par with using players as step stools to jump up and. block a kick and that sort of contrived bs.