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ESPN's Benjamin Solak on Panthers QB situation


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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

I wonder who is "prohibitively bad at the position" if it isn't Bryce. 

I think the only reason someone might say this is by not watching him and merely looking at the stat sheet and particularly turnovers. Bryce doesn’t turn the ball over nearly as much as some other prohibitively bad QBs. But that’s because he’s scared to do anything with the ball lol. I’d much rather have Jameis’ turnovers than Bryce’s when it comes with the potential for 5000 passing yards and 30 TDs instead of 2000 and 15

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2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Carolina will almost certainly pursue a quarterback alternative this offseason. It probably won't fully punt on Young, as he's still on a cheap contract and not prohibitively bad at the position, as shown by the Panthers' 5-5 record this season. (Dave Canales really is doing a wonderful coaching job, if you ask me.)

I don't think you'll get Trevor Lawrence out of Jacksonville, but the idea of a veteran retread for Carolina is extremely attractive to me. As was well covered when he was hired, Canales was part of Geno Smith's rehabilitation in Seattle and Baker Mayfield's in Tampa Bay. This offense is plug-and-play ready for a functional veteran, with a strong offensive line and a budding elite receiver in Tetairoa McMillan.

Kyler Murray is the obvious name for this upcoming offseason, as his time in Arizona seems all but over. You know who loves to funnel targets to a star No. 1 receiver and has the sort of pocket fearlessness that Smith and Mayfield both displayed? Mac Jones.

Is he under contract with the 49ers in 2026? Yes. But we'll cross that bridge when we get there. He would be a good fit.

You are not telling me this person got paid to produce this. 

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2 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

Canales doing a wonderful job.. Lol

They both suck. Bryce just sucks more

 

Dumb ass Dave is a phony. Alwasy says after each loss what he needs to do better then takes two games to implement.  Then makes up 2 new things he sucks at after each subsequent loss. fug Canalas. Worse than Matt Rhule 

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