Ekwonu doesn’t get dog walked under 2 minutes in the 4th, we drive, kick a FG and win

[PantherChris]

20 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

The standard for stepping up in the pocket is to the point at which the QB can still see over his OL, otherwise, there is no advantage to stepping up in the pocket to read the defense and work through the progressions. If he's stepping up in the pocket at that point, then he's running or looking to the flat for his hot.

Ekwonu should be playing guard and Bryce is not an NFL QB for these critical game situations where his limitations are a weakness to the offense.

He also had about 12 yards of green grass if he goes up and to the right.

 

Also he wasnt even in the pocket... like at all 7 step five yard drop when starting in the shotgun.... no tackles are gonna be helped by that.

Edited 16 hours ago by PantherChris

[carolinanimal]

26 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

He also had about 12 yards of green grass if he goes up and to the right.

 

Also he wasnt even in the pocket... like at all 7 step five yard drop when starting in the shotgun.... no tackles are gonna be helped by that.

he takes that deep drop because he cant see. they have to use the skycam to see him in the huddle 

[Waldo]

12 hours ago, carolinanimal said:

whats crazy is that he got sacked 5 yards back from where he got the snap IN THE SHOTGUN!!

The David Carr special is what that is called

[Navy_football]

Come on Huddle. I love Ickey's energy and fight, but he got his tail beat on that play and gave up a sack. 

How can we possibly have 9 pages blaming the QB for his LT getting bull rushed into him in 2 seconds while he's looking to the right? That's why your opinions aren't taken seriously. EVERYTHING negative is because Bryce Young sucks and is too small and his arm is too weak and he can't read the field and he's not accurate and...

[frankw]

15 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Come on Huddle. I love Ickey's energy and fight, but he got his tail beat on that play and gave up a sack. 

How can we possibly have 9 pages blaming the QB for his LT getting bull rushed into him in 2 seconds while he's looking to the right? That's why your opinions aren't taken seriously. EVERYTHING negative is because Bryce Young sucks and is too small and his arm is too weak and he can't read the field and he's not accurate and...

If you think Icky in his prime is bad let's give Bryce Young prime Byron Bell and tell him to win with that.

Until then. The whining needs to stop.

[Navy_football]

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

If you think Icky in his prime is bad let's give Bryce Young prime Byron Bell and tell him to win with that.

Until then. The whining needs to stop.

See what I mean. Did I say Ickey was bad? Did you read anything even remotely saying that in my post? I said I love Ickey but he got beat on THAT play and gave up the sack on THAT play. THAT play was not on the QB. THAT play was on the LT. 

[Navy_football]

16 minutes ago, frankw said:

If you think Icky in his prime is bad let's give Bryce Young prime Byron Bell and tell him to win with that.

Until then. The whining needs to stop.

 

1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

See what I mean. Did I say Ickey was bad? Did you read anything even remotely saying that in my post? I said I love Ickey but he got beat on THAT play and gave up the sack on THAT play. THAT play was not on the QB. THAT play was on the LT. 

And further more, give Bryce Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen and Tedd Ginn. Until then. The bitching needs to stop. 

See how that sounds?

[Waldo]

42 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Come on Huddle. I love Ickey's energy and fight, but he got his tail beat on that play and gave up a sack. 

How can we possibly have 9 pages blaming the QB for his LT getting bull rushed into him in 2 seconds while he's looking to the right? That's why your opinions aren't taken seriously. EVERYTHING negative is because Bryce Young sucks and is too small and his arm is too weak and he can't read the field and he's not accurate and...

There is a point in the video it's clear he sees the pressure and decides to start backpeddling right into it vs stepping up and away from it. Watch it, it's obvious because there is a pause before he makes that choice to keep dropping regardless. That sure looks like it's on Bryce. It's not even an attack but just the obvious truth. 

[Navy_football]

So which do you think is more egregious? Not stepping up into this:

Or not stepping up into this:Or this:

Those were back-to-back redzone sacks taken by Shough Sunday. 

[frankw]

14 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

 

And further more, give Bryce Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen and Tedd Ginn. Until then. The bitching needs to stop. 

See how that sounds?

You act like we gave Cam Newton the highest paid OL in the league and back to back first round WR's including one #8 overall for the first time in franchise history.

Give Bryce Young Byron Bell on his left and Nate Chandler on his right and Ted Ginn out there dropping passes that hit both his hands multiple times in the same drive. And for good measure give him Corey Brown instead of Jalen Coker. Just win baby.

[Navy_football]

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

There is a point in the video it's clear he sees the pressure and decides to start backpeddling right into it vs stepping up and away from it. Watch it, it's obvious because there is a pause before he makes that choice to keep dropping regardless. That sure looks like it's on Bryce. It's not even an attack but just the obvious truth. 

No he didn't. He was looking to the right the entire time. When he realized Chase was on him, he braced for impact and protected the ball. 

[Navy_football]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

You act like we gave Cam Newton the highest paid OL in the league and back to back first round WR's including one #8 overall for the first time in franchise history.

Give Bryce Young Byron Bell on his left and Nate Chandler on his right and Ted Ginn out there dropping passes that hit both his hands multiple times in the same drive. And for good measure give him Corey Brown instead of Jalen Coker. Just win baby.

We gave Cam the highest paid LT this team has ever had. That didn't work out so well did it? Doesn't matter how much they're paid or where they were drafted. Can they play? Our #8 ROOKIE WR is consistently being outplayed by our UDFA 2nd year WR. 

And... Ted Ginn's speed changed the way defenses played Carolina. No CB in the NFL could run with him. Whether he caught it or not, you had to honor that fact. That's his signifigance.

And Corey Brown ran a friggin 4.37 at the combine. What did our current WRs run? Just saying.

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

We gave Cam the highest paid LT this team has ever had. That didn't work out so well did it? Doesn't matter how much they're paid or where they were drafted. Can they play? Our #8 ROOKIE WR is consistently being outplayed by our UDFA 2nd year WR. 

And... Ted Ginn's speed changed the way defenses played Carolina. No CB in the NFL could run with him. Whether he caught it or not, you had to honor that fact. That's his signifigance.

And Corey Brown ran a friggin 4.37 at the combine. What did our current WRs run? Just saying.

Let's be real. Signing Matt Kalil who was at the time inconsistent at best was always an extremely risky move and largely initiated by the fact he was related to one of our most prominent players Ryan Kalil.

Memories get fuzzy the longer time passes I guess. Go watch some old Panthers games with Ted Ginn nearly losing us games. Then watch Cam Newton keep going back to him again and again and again. Then read all the Xavier Legette criticism while making excuses for Bryce being swept by rookie 2nd round pick Tyler Shough.

Throwing TMac under the bus is just further proof how deranged the Bryce Young defense force has become.

Bryce Young can barely compete in this gutter iteration of the NFC South.

Let's see him take this WR core to the playoffs in an NFC South with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan

[carolinanimal]

16 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

We gave Cam the highest paid LT this team has ever had. That didn't work out so well did it? Doesn't matter how much they're paid or where they were drafted. Can they play? Our #8 ROOKIE WR is consistently being outplayed by our UDFA 2nd year WR. 

And... Ted Ginn's speed changed the way defenses played Carolina. No CB in the NFL could run with him. Whether he caught it or not, you had to honor that fact. That's his signifigance.

And Corey Brown ran a friggin 4.37 at the combine. What did our current WRs run? Just saying.

What does it matter how fast the wrs are with Bryce he is not hitting them anyway