Gabbert is the top rated QB

[Jackofalltrades]

That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out objection. Overruled!! :)

Excuse me, did you say "yutes?"

[cdandi1]

it's a video of every play he made in that game. there is lots and lots of game tape on him. most of them look like that video.

There has to be something that every scouting group is looking at other than youtube vids to think this kid is worth a damn.

[teeray]

Won't be fixed this year- improved some yes, but not fixed.

Remember this, Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

Long time ago. 10 years ago to be exact. game changes in a decade. So does our conference. We have 3 of the top 12 QBs in the league in our conference. If you can't get in the playoffs you can't win a super bowl.

[Jackofalltrades]

Big Ben first time around then.

[teeray]

Excuse me, did you say "yutes?"

::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Glad you got the reference!!!! :)

[Jackofalltrades]

::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Glad you got the reference!!!! :)

I'd never miss a My Cousin Vinny ref! One of my all time faves!

[teeray]

Big Ben first time around then.

Ummm... I need to go to the judges on that one.

[teeray]

Ummm... I need to go to the judges on that one.

He was pretty good his rookie year even though he didn't play great in the super bowl.

66.4% 17tds and 11 ints. Pretty consistent with his stats most years. I dunno about that one.

[Nicbsbll2]

No chance, #1 pick bust murders a salary cap with 40-50 mil gauranteed and a weak back up.

There was this guy named Delhomme who we did pretty well with too. Brett Favre was traded to the Packers, Brees was a FA signing, Kerry Collins of all people had good years in NY and TN.

FA's are significantly cheaper and have already shown they can play at this level. Ideal route? Of course not, but there's no QB in this class worth the top pick. Improve an already stout D and take pressure off the O.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Since you seem to have a plan here, tell me what franchise quality quarterback is going to be hitting the open market any time soon? How about which one is going to be available for a trade?

Since we can just wait till next year, how about if we end up with a record of 7-9 and are picking 10th or worse in the draft. What quarterbacks after Luck and Barkley can we select, since those two will be long gone before we select?

If you have an answer for any of these questions, then great! Let's go your route. If you don't, then we either have to take the best quarterback in the draft and hope he turns in to Big Ben and not JaMarcus or else be content with being mediocre, at best, for the next 5 years or more.

I don't know about you, but I think it's about damn time this franchise takes a chance to try to become one of the elite franchises in this league instead of being content with being mediocre because we were too scared to take the risk.

[Ruff]

You are aware that "taking risks" is what put the Raiders where they are, right?

Did the Patriots go out and "take a chance" on some first round QB, or did they let a vet QB teach a guy they got out of the sixth round?

[Brooklyn Bully]

You are aware that "taking risks" is what put the Raiders where they are, right?

Did the Patriots go out and "take a chance" on some first round QB, or did they let a vet QB teach a guy they got out of the sixth round?

Josh Freeman laughs in your general direction.

Really though, we could debate all day long over teams that took risks and lost and teams that took risks and won. There is no right or wrong way. There are times, however, when a risk must be taken. I don't think Gabbert or Cam are worth going for with any potential bust or boom that would follow. They're just not "good enough" in my eyes. But hey, who was all excited about Freeman or Flacco? I'm all for taking risks though. Don't the the Raiders skew your view.

[mav1234]

If the Panthers, after interviews, think one or both of these guys can be franchise quarterbacks, then they might pull the trigger on one... Me? Well, a new QB would be exciting but I don't think it's the best route right now. I know a franchise QB is a big deal, but I just would rather we go after a couple vet FAs and solidify other positions.

When it comes down to the QBs in this class, I personally like Gabbert more. I know more about him, I like what I've seen more in terms of how it will transition to the NFL, and I'm a slight bit of a homer. I am positive that if he gets to a decent situation (it doesn't need to be good), he will do well.

It's not that I dislike Cam Newton, either, I just am way more leery of him than a lot of other posters. I just have seen him do so little. I dunno.

[mav1234]

man what the hell is it with people thinking that one youtube clip of the first game of Gabbert's season is somehow equal to all the film scouts have on him?

[panthers55]

It is good to see no one has changed their mind through countless threads and posts.

I wonder if the only ones that count have formed some opinions yet. The drills are upcoming but the interviews and chalktalks are the most important thimgs for Newton and Gabbert. I would like to be a fly on the wall to see what the actual decisionmakers are discussing about now.