Joe Person: Panthers are NOT expected to extend Bryce Young before the 2026 season

[SmokinwithWilly]

39 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hell, I'm not even defending Rico. He got red hot and we rode that hot streak to winning 4 out of 5 games. 

It is what it is and Bryce is ass.

I think it might be possible too that he got disgruntled after being nearly benched. He showed out and saved his body for the contract he knew wasnt coming from the Panthers. 

[tukafan21]

On 5/21/2026 at 2:46 AM, strato said:

It’s only complicated if you plan to throw the rookie into the fire. If you want to sit him, which I would, you are set up to do it.

Bryce can fulfill the terms of his contract and we don’t pay 26.5 million him not to play for us, like dumb asses. And he can put another year of marginal growth on his resume, along with demonstrating professionalism. 

No, even if you want to sit him, you do it with a new vet brought in, not your former #1 overall pick who you just drafted his replacement and then ask him to mentor him for the season before letting him go.

And then what happens if Bryce has a breakthrough season?

It's what just happened with the Vikings, a QB had a breakthrough season and then let him walk because of the new Top 10 pick and it's already looking terrible.

Doing it with a player you also just took #1 overall makes it 100 times worse.

I'd bet my life savings that if we take a QB in the Top 10 next year, there isn't a chance in hell that Bryce is on the roster for Day 1 of TC, and likely gone long before that day anyways.

[strato]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

No, even if you want to sit him, you do it with a new vet brought in, not your former #1 overall pick who you just drafted his replacement and then ask him to mentor him for the season before letting him go.

And then what happens if Bryce has a breakthrough season?

It's what just happened with the Vikings, a QB had a breakthrough season and then let him walk because of the new Top 10 pick and it's already looking terrible.

Doing it with a player you also just took #1 overall makes it 100 times worse.

I'd bet my life savings that if we take a QB in the Top 10 next year, there isn't a chance in hell that Bryce is on the roster for Day 1 of TC, and likely gone long before that day anyways.

You pay him If he has a breakthrough season. Obviously finally getting some real competition was what he needed.
If that isn’t possible you franchise him. You have not lost anything you have probably a first round QB behind him. If you want to you can flip him. Or you do things the old way and groom him. 

That is what Minnesota should have done  

 

[strato]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

No, even if you want to sit him, you do it with a new vet brought in, not your former #1 overall pick who you just drafted his replacement and then ask him to mentor him for the season before letting him go.

And then what happens if Bryce has a breakthrough season?

It's what just happened with the Vikings, a QB had a breakthrough season and then let him walk because of the new Top 10 pick and it's already looking terrible.

Doing it with a player you also just took #1 overall makes it 100 times worse.

I'd bet my life savings that if we take a QB in the Top 10 next year, there isn't a chance in hell that Bryce is on the roster for Day 1 of TC, and likely gone long before that day anyways.

You pay him If he has a breakthrough season. Obviously finally getting some real competition was what he needed.
If that isn’t possible you franchise him. You have not lost anything you have probably a first round QB behind him. If you want to you can flip him. Or you do things the old way and groom him. 

That is what Minnesota should have done  

 

[strato]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

No, even if you want to sit him, you do it with a new vet brought in, not your former #1 overall pick who you just drafted his replacement and then ask him to mentor him for the season before letting him go.

And then what happens if Bryce has a breakthrough season?

It's what just happened with the Vikings, a QB had a breakthrough season and then let him walk because of the new Top 10 pick and it's already looking terrible.

Doing it with a player you also just took #1 overall makes it 100 times worse.

I'd bet my life savings that if we take a QB in the Top 10 next year, there isn't a chance in hell that Bryce is on the roster for Day 1 of TC, and likely gone long before that day anyways.

You pay him If he has a breakthrough season. Obviously finally getting some real competition was what he needed.
If that isn’t possible you franchise him. You have not lost anything you have probably a first round QB behind him. If you want to you can flip him. Or you do things the old way and groom him. 

That is what Minnesota should have done  

 

[strato]

Lol did you hear me the first two times? 
I have been getting errors and cloud flare timeouts like I got last time the board went down. 
 

Sorry for the echo. 

[tukafan21]

13 hours ago, strato said:

You pay him If he has a breakthrough season. Obviously finally getting some real competition was what he needed.
If that isn’t possible you franchise him. You have not lost anything you have probably a first round QB behind him. If you want to you can flip him. Or you do things the old way and groom him. 

That is what Minnesota should have done  

 

I get that you're taking the pragmatic approach here, and on the surface it makes sense, especially because yes, that's exactly what the Vikings should have done.

But again, the factor you're leaving out is that we drafted Bryce #1 overall, that's what changes everything in the scenario.

You just can't take a QB #1 overall, have him not play well the first 4 years, draft his replacement, and then still keep him as the starting QB for that 5th season.  Beyond all the problems it could cause if Bryce plays well, it also just creates an awkward locker room situation that you wouldn't want to throw that rookie into as well as what it does to the rest of the team.

I'm not going to try and research it, but I'd be SHOCKED if there is a single instance of this happening in NFL history with a QB that was drafted in the 1st round alone, let alone 1st overall, as no team is dumb enough to do that.

[strato]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I get that you're taking the pragmatic approach here, and on the surface it makes sense, especially because yes, that's exactly what the Vikings should have done.

But again, the factor you're leaving out is that we drafted Bryce #1 overall, that's what changes everything in the scenario.

You just can't take a QB #1 overall, have him not play well the first 4 years, draft his replacement, and then still keep him as the starting QB for that 5th season.  Beyond all the problems it could cause if Bryce plays well, it also just creates an awkward locker room situation that you wouldn't want to throw that rookie into as well as what it does to the rest of the team.

I'm not going to try and research it, but I'd be SHOCKED if there is a single instance of this happening in NFL history with a QB that was drafted in the 1st round alone, let alone 1st overall, as no team is dumb enough to do that.

Well you are the one that compared it to Minnesota even though it is a different dynamic. 
And they may well do exactly as you suggest. 
 

There is no way to know what will happen anyway until we see if Junior can actually step up enough to make it sn issue.  
 

I just think a deal is a deal. A contract should be honored by both sides, and there is nothing that requires us to throw away 26.6 mil to keep from upsetting a player who is under contract. 
I would absolutely play hardball if it came to it.  
 

[tukafan21]

57 minutes ago, strato said:

Well you are the one that compared it to Minnesota even though it is a different dynamic. 
And they may well do exactly as you suggest. 
 

There is no way to know what will happen anyway until we see if Junior can actually step up enough to make it sn issue.  
 

I just think a deal is a deal. A contract should be honored by both sides, and there is nothing that requires us to throw away 26.6 mil to keep from upsetting a player who is under contract. 
I would absolutely play hardball if it came to it.  
 

But it's not about not upsetting a player under contract, it's about not causing a rift in the locker room.

The players love Bryce, whether as a person or a player doesn't matter.  You can't spend a Top 10 pick on a QB and then still start your #1 overall pick in the last year of their contract.

That act alone will cause a massive locker room rift/distraction that would be unavoidable.  Some players will question why you "wasted" a Top 10 pick on a QB you're not going to start instead of someone who can help right away.  While others will question why we are keeping Bryce around for the season when it's clear he's not the future guy at that point.

It would just make for a bad start to the rookie's career while causing locker room distractions.  Again, I'd bet this has never happened in this league before with any 1st round QB, let alone the #1 overall pick, and there is a reason for it, which is that it would be epically stupid to do.

And I used the Vikings as the example as they're the closest I can think of, because again, there isn't a direct comparison as nobody has ever done it because it's that dumb of an idea (no offense lol).

[strato]

40 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

But it's not about not upsetting a player under contract, it's about not causing a rift in the locker room.

The players love Bryce, whether as a person or a player doesn't matter.  You can't spend a Top 10 pick on a QB and then still start your #1 overall pick in the last year of their contract.

That act alone will cause a massive locker room rift/distraction that would be unavoidable.  Some players will question why you "wasted" a Top 10 pick on a QB you're not going to start instead of someone who can help right away.  While others will question why we are keeping Bryce around for the season when it's clear he's not the future guy at that point.

It would just make for a bad start to the rookie's career while causing locker room distractions.  Again, I'd bet this has never happened in this league before with any 1st round QB, let alone the #1 overall pick, and there is a reason for it, which is that it would be epically stupid to do.

And I used the Vikings as the example as they're the closest I can think of, because again, there isn't a direct comparison as nobody has ever done it because it's that dumb of an idea (no offense lol).

Lot of passion there. 
Look, if Bryce plays down to the level that we feel the need to draft a QB high, you don’t think the locker room might be ready for anything that helps them win?  
There are s lot of angles to this that could come into play depending on what happens this year. 

[tukafan21]

11 minutes ago, strato said:

Lot of passion there. 
Look, if Bryce plays down to the level that we feel the need to draft a QB high, you don’t think the locker room might be ready for anything that helps them win?  
There are s lot of angles to this that could come into play depending on what happens this year. 

But that's the point, if the locker room feels that way, then you're going to upset them by still keeping Bryce around and playing him over the Top 10 pick, as opposed to bringing in a vet to start until the rookie is ready.

Again, it goes one of 3 ways...

1. Bryce plays well enough to earn an extension

2. Bryce still sucks and we draft his replacement who starts Week 1 with a new QB as his backup

3. Bryce still sucks, we draft his replacement in the 1st, but they start the season backing up a new vet QB who was brought in to be his mentor.

With an OUTSIDE chance at a 4th option where Bryce plays well enough to convince the team to let him play out the 5th year option and then make a decision.  Which I can't see it happening, but there is still a non zero chance of that happening I guess.

The only way we draft a QB next year and still have Bryce on the roster, is if we're taking someone in the middle rounds hoping to develop them as a long term backup to Bryce.

Edited May 23 by tukafan21

[UnluckyforSome]

If we draft a qb in the top 10, Young will be traded for whatever they can get, which will not be much. The Jets gave up a 7th and got a 6th from the Broncos when they dealt former #2 overall Wilson. Failing that, outright cut and released.

[strato]

27 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

But that's the point, if the locker room feels that way, then you're going to upset them by still keeping Bryce around and playing him over the Top 10 pick, as opposed to bringing in a vet to start until the rookie is ready.

Again, it goes one of 3 ways...

1. Bryce plays well enough to earn an extension

2. Bryce still sucks and we draft his replacement who starts Week 1 with a new QB as his backup

3. Bryce still sucks, we draft his replacement in the 1st, but they start the season backing up a new vet QB who was brought in to be his mentor.

With an OUTSIDE chance at a 4th option where Bryce plays well enough to convince the team to let him play out the 5th year option and then make a decision.  Which I can't see it happening, but there is still a non zero chance of that happening I guess.

The only way we draft a QB next year and still have Bryce on the roster, is if we're taking someone in the middle rounds hoping to develop them as a long term backup to Bryce.

Well, you have it all figured out. I am not going to write multiple more essays to ry and change your mind. 

I don’t see some of the locker room issues being as dire as what you are interpreting, they are professionals after all and hopefully the character standards they have seemingly applied to who comes into that locker room will serve us well.
 

And you know, there is more than one way to skin a little cat with 9 lives 

Edited May 23 by strato

[strato]

11 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

If we draft a qb in the top 10, Young will be traded for whatever they can get, which will not be much. The Jets gave up a 7th and got a 6th from the Broncos when they dealt former #2 overall Wilson. Failing that, outright cut and released.

With that 26 mil or whatever on his last year - if we want to trade him what we could do is pay that ourselves, essentially buy a better return in the form of s draft pick. 

Edited May 23 by strato