Sorthnarolina's 7 Round Mock Draft 5.0...

[SorthNarolina]

I'm trying to make this one more in line with team philosophies. Build through the draft and no massive contracts for players outside the team.

Major needs:

QB

DT x 3

Needs:

CB

WR

OG

OT

Free Agents

Resign: C. Johnson, Kalil, Davis, Anderson, Rosario, J. Williams, Jon Beason(extension), D. Williams

Franchise: I know Kalil has been franchised but I think once the CBA is in place they lock him up long term. I have no idea who should be given the franchise tag. It's not economical and nobody has expressed a desire to leave.

Let Go: Moore, Marshall, King, Hayden, E. Johnson

Bring In:

DT Barry Coefield- This draft is very deep at DT so we shouldn't spend too much on them in FA. However, we really have nothing at the position.

QB Vince Young - I have no idea who to sign at QB, Young is the latest flavor of the day. Yay!

The Draft:

1st - CB Patrick Peterson - PP is the best solution to the tricky problem at CB. He could be as good or better than the best of the FAs. He will most likely be just as good as a mid level FA. Cost wise he's as much as a mid level FA maybe even cheaper.

I'd like to believe we could trade down to 4 or so and get him, but I just don't see it happening.

I don't understand the whole stigma of taking a CB at #1 because teams will just throw away from him. If PP in his first year is having NFL QBs avoid him would that not be a smashing success? I don't care if he's "not involved on every play", that just means teams will are forced to go to Gamble and Munnerlynn. They can't pick on Marshall anymore.

3rd - OG/OT Benjamin Ijalana - a good reserve to have. Possible starter. The sad fact is you can't depend on Otah.

3rd(comp) - DT Jarvis Jenkins - A good rotational guy for the interior. Can stop the run.

4th - DT Lawrence Guy - another good rotational fella.

5th - Alex Henery K/P/KOS - great kicker. John Kasay needs to be replaced. Doesn't have to be cut this year but we gotta be thinking about the future. It's like he's untouchable or something. New coaches might change that mindset.

6th - OLB Brian Rolle - we need better depth at OLB.

7th rounder went to packers in case you're wondering.

Discuss.

[bwhit33]

I fully support PP7 #1, as he is my #1 player in this draft. You cannot understate what a shutdown corner will do for a team. He has all the signs to be one. Plus he is a sure tackler when using his speed to chase down balls thrown to the other side of the field.

I also think that as long as Bowers and Dareus/Fairley are on the board at 2, PP7 definitely makes it to 4, if not all the way to 7.

Highly unlikely that Ijalana makes it to the third round, he is this year's roger safold. Personally i have him as a first round talent that might slip to the early second. Needless to say, he would be a huge steal for you there. Watkins or Bowling are sufficient replaceement picks.

Jenkins would be a great addition for you for any team in the 3rd, but you'll be picking at the end of the third with a compensatory selection every team 3-4 or 4-3 will consider him before you get there. I like Jurrell Casey for you there instead.

Lawrence guy is a solid pickup, though i would think he is kind of redundant taking back to back 3 tech's, i'd look at one of the nose prospects like Fua or Williams to anchor the center of the line and command double teams every down.

Alex Henery seems to be the hot 5th round pick for nearly every team's MB i have visited... any team with a questionable and/or aging kicker will be looking to pick this guy up as late as possible. You guys definitely have the uperhand if you feel Kasay is on the outs.

I really like Rolle in the 6th, and feel that its a good likelihood that he makes it to your pick.

All in all, a few reaches, that are easily replaced by nearly equal talents. I would question your rationale for placing CB as high a need as you do... from an outsider's perspective, your secondary is your strong point across the entire team. Why not adress the biggest need you have after QB with the most value? Cofeild could give you two or three decent years, but he is past his prime. I do think VY is a sollid pick up for any team in QB distress.

[SorthNarolina]

I fully support PP7 #1, as he is my #1 player in this draft. You cannot understate what a shutdown corner will do for a team. He has all the signs to be one. Plus he is a sure tackler when using his speed to chase down balls thrown to the other side of the field.

I also think that as long as Bowers and Dareus/Fairley are on the board at 2, PP7 definitely makes it to 4, if not all the way to 7.

Highly unlikely that Ijalana makes it to the third round, he is this year's roger safold. Personally i have him as a first round talent that might slip to the early second. Needless to say, he would be a huge steal for you there. Watkins or Bowling are sufficient replaceement picks.

Jenkins would be a great addition for you for any team in the 3rd, but you'll be picking at the end of the third with a compensatory selection every team 3-4 or 4-3 will consider him before you get there. I like Jurrell Casey for you there instead.

Lawrence guy is a solid pickup, though i would think he is kind of redundant taking back to back 3 tech's, i'd look at one of the nose prospects like Fua or Williams to anchor the center of the line and command double teams every down.

Alex Henery seems to be the hot 5th round pick for nearly every team's MB i have visited... any team with a questionable and/or aging kicker will be looking to pick this guy up as late as possible. You guys definitely have the uperhand if you feel Kasay is on the outs.

I really like Rolle in the 6th, and feel that its a good likelihood that he makes it to your pick.

All in all, a few reaches, that are easily replaced by nearly equal talents. I would question your rationale for placing CB as high a need as you do... from an outsider's perspective, your secondary is your strong point across the entire team. Why not adress the biggest need you have after QB with the most value? Cofeild could give you two or three decent years, but he is past his prime. I do think VY is a sollid pick up for any team in QB distress.

I am a PP7 number 1 fan. Only he and Marcell Dareus look the most qualified when every single qualification is considered.

Our Secondary is strong, but as your an outsider do you know Richard Marshall is almost assuredly not coming back? There is a need there. I'd say CB is the 3rd biggest need on the team behind QB and DT. QB is a shaky proposition. The most qualified D-lineman is Dareus.

[bwhit33]

Chris Gamble is a solid #1 and Capn' i'll admit is a strong nickel, sufficient #2 in this league... but you have some decent youth behind them... but i would agree that CB is vaulted up to 4 behind QB DT and #1 WR (smith is on his last leg, gettis screams #2 and im not really sold on LaFell)

[SorthNarolina]

The youth behind Gamble is youthful but not talented.

McClain got worked when starting. He's not ready. C.J. Wilson is ST gunner at best.

Munnerlynn is an excellent nickle just like Marshall was an excellent nickle. The team didn't think Marshall was a #2 because they drafted Martin. Martin ended up being switched to safety because they were mistaken that he could play CB. I think they feel the same this time too.

Need, BPA, injuries, intangibles, combine, ST duty. These are some of the factors I would think about when drafting a player. Peterson so far is the player that qualifies all of these the best.

[JawnyBlaze]

I'd say it's a fair mock. I'd argue that DT x1 is a Major need, and another one or two is a regular level need. For the mid round DTs, I'd be looking harder at Jerrell Powe than Jenkins or Guy. Cofield in FA would be great. No to VY :( He'd pull his crybaby poo once in practice and Smitty would relieve him of his front 4 teeth.

[Catalyst]

I don't have a problem drafting a CB #1 overall, I just don't really think Peterson is worth it. I don't even consider him the best CB in this draft. He's a safety in the NFL. Maybe a damn good one, but not 1st overall material.

[JawnyBlaze]

:eek:

I don't have a problem drafting a CB #1 overall, I just don't really think Peterson is worth it. I don't even consider him the best CB in this draft. He's a safety in the NFL. Maybe a damn good one, but not 1st overall material.

[Catalyst]

Mark my words: Brandon Harris will be the best CB in this draft by FAR. Peterson has 'Ed Reed' written all over him if moved to FS, but that doesn't make him top pick worthy. I'm not convinced he can play CB at a high level in the NFL.

He reminds me a lot of DeAngelo Hall as a CB, a ballhawk for sure, but not as sound in coverage as you might think. I mean, how many INT's did Revis or Asomugha have last year? That's because nobody throws at them. You have to be careful with corners who have a lot of picks in college because that also can mean that they're being thrown at quite a bit.

As for Amakumara... not a fan at all. He'll be average at best, IMO. If we were picking in the middle of the 1st, I'd be all over Brandon Harris as our pick. He's going to be a stud.

[Jackofalltrades]

I'd rather take two DT's in the third since it's a bigger need than OL, other than that I really like it.

[Jackofalltrades]

I don't have a problem drafting a CB #1 overall, I just don't really think Peterson is worth it. I don't even consider him the best CB in this draft. He's a safety in the NFL. Maybe a damn good one, but not 1st overall material.

Very few people have Petersom moving to safety.

He's a CB, keep him there.

[davos]

I'm trying to make this one more in line with team philosophies. Build through the draft and no massive contracts for players outside the team.

Major needs:

QB

DT x 3

Needs:

CB

WR

OG

OT

Free Agents

Resign: C. Johnson, Kalil, Davis, Anderson, Rosario, J. Williams, Jon Beason(extension), D. Williams

Franchise: I know Kalil has been franchised but I think once the CBA is in place they lock him up long term. I have no idea who should be given the franchise tag. It's not economical and nobody has expressed a desire to leave.

Let Go: Moore, Marshall, King, Hayden, E. Johnson

Bring In:

DT Barry Coefield- This draft is very deep at DT so we shouldn't spend too much on them in FA. However, we really have nothing at the position.

QB Vince Young - I have no idea who to sign at QB, Young is the latest flavor of the day. Yay!

The Draft:

1st - CB Patrick Peterson - PP is the best solution to the tricky problem at CB. He could be as good or better than the best of the FAs. He will most likely be just as good as a mid level FA. Cost wise he's as much as a mid level FA maybe even cheaper.

I'd like to believe we could trade down to 4 or so and get him, but I just don't see it happening.

I don't understand the whole stigma of taking a CB at #1 because teams will just throw away from him. If PP in his first year is having NFL QBs avoid him would that not be a smashing success? I don't care if he's "not involved on every play", that just means teams will are forced to go to Gamble and Munnerlynn. They can't pick on Marshall anymore.

3rd - OG/OT Benjamin Ijalana - a good reserve to have. Possible starter. The sad fact is you can't depend on Otah.

3rd(comp) - DT Jarvis Jenkins - A good rotational guy for the interior. Can stop the run.

4th - DT Lawrence Guy - another good rotational fella.

5th - Alex Henery K/P/KOS - great kicker. John Kasay needs to be replaced. Doesn't have to be cut this year but we gotta be thinking about the future. It's like he's untouchable or something. New coaches might change that mindset.

6th - OLB Brian Rolle - we need better depth at OLB.

7th rounder went to packers in case you're wondering.

Discuss.

I really like this minus Vince Young. rep

I think no doubt Coefield would be a really great DT to pursue. Still really young and could be a great 5-7 yr starter.

Peterson is the most explosive and overall talented player in the draft. A stud, boss, I'm down with this move.

I like Jenkins also...a few other names that I would like to see us snag up are Powe & Kendrick Ellis. Two really strong talents at DT

My current QB solution: Since Young is really out of the equation due to Rivera & Fisher's friendship (I'm sure what Ron hears will keep him away) my FA pickup choice atm: Bruce Gradkowski. I dunno, but when you merge potential, youth, and experience he actually (along with Dixon) I think would be decent options in the FA considering the rest of the options.

Drafting a QB: If our staff falls in love with either Gabbert or Newton, I'll support them 100%; but if not: Kaepernick, Stanzi, & McElroy are on my watch list & that's pretty much it. I'm eying Barkley in a year or two as my personal choice for our franchise QB.

Oh, and I definitely agree on the whole Drafting a CB at number 1 thing.

[SorthNarolina]

Mark my words: Brandon Harris will be the best CB in this draft by FAR. Peterson has 'Ed Reed' written all over him if moved to FS, but that doesn't make him top pick worthy. I'm not convinced he can play CB at a high level in the NFL.

He reminds me a lot of DeAngelo Hall as a CB, a ballhawk for sure, but not as sound in coverage as you might think. I mean, how many INT's did Revis or Asomugha have last year? That's because nobody throws at them. You have to be careful with corners who have a lot of picks in college because that also can mean that they're being thrown at quite a bit.

As for Amakumara... not a fan at all. He'll be average at best, IMO. If we were picking in the middle of the 1st, I'd be all over Brandon Harris as our pick. He's going to be a stud.

I like Brandon Harris too but you are stretching the concept of limited production too far.

And if you really believe in that mantra Peterson has the same amount of tackles and passes defensed as Harris but he turned more of those PDs into picks. So if anything Peterson looks better with that philosophy.

Jimmy Smith should be your fav he was barely thrown at.

[Lout]

I think we go with 2 DTs in the 3rd round.. but there is no way we draft defense with our top 3 picks after our offense went dead last. Our Dline coach went to Baylor's pro day and worked out Phil Taylor (DT).. I would love to get him, but he is projected to go near the top of the 2nd round.