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Newton’s pro day shows why he shoulf be No 1

KaseKlosed

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I don't want a QB who might be ready in 6-24 months, I want a player who starts week 1 and has a positive impact. Neither Gabbert nor Newton fit that bill, IMO.

As to starting, it doesn't have to be an all or nothing affair. We are going to have a veteran QB on the roster, be it Moore, Palmer, Volek or whoever. Give the rookie 1 series a game, or more, depending on how they are progressing week-to-week. This gives them a chance to get used to the speed of the game and reading defenses before they are thrown into a starting position.

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NO-ROOKIE-QB-2011-PERIOD! What part of that don't you all understand? This is a weak-ass class and you all just grasping at straws out of desperation.

The entire draft class is relatively weak across the board. There'll be some good players out of it, but most of the successful ones will all be guys that fulfilled on potential. There is no sure fire "he's gonna blow the league up" talent.

That being said, Cam has arguably the greatest potential out of everyone available. Additionally, even if he came in and wasn't very good as a rookie, he's better than what we have and our biggest needs are 1)QB 2)DT (possible starter on OL and CB2 are also slight concerns IMO). So we need to go with the position that give the biggest impact both short term and long term - QB.

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Was just listning to John Clayton on ESPN aand they were talking about QBs and where they might go.

General thinking is that Cincy would rather let Palmer retire than trade him. McNabb is reportedly getting interest from Minnesota and Arizona. Minnesota considered the best choice and where he would be the best fit. Problem is that there won't be a decision until after the draft. Hasselback will likely go back to Seattle.

So other than a guy like Volek, who really is a go no where do nothing kind of guy, exactly what free agent quarterback are we getting instead of Newton or Gabbert.

I hear people saying that is how we will go but honestlyy if there is no QB worth the number 1 pick, there is no body out there who we can realistically get who woul be worth trading for. C.mon those who want a FA, who exactly is worth trading for.

If we don't draft anyone expect Moore and Clausen to be the guys we go with in 2011. I don't think I could take that.

As Fred Sanford used to say: Elizabeth, I am coming to be with you. This is the big one..................

We could always try for a Gradkowski or Dennis Dixon train... :arf:

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How do you figure that?

Did you see Clausen?

That's how. :lol:

I've mentioned before, but even if Cam can't read a defense or the OL collapses, he is athletic enough to escape and make a play out of nothing. That is better than what we have.

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I've mentioned before, but even if Cam can't read a defense or the OL collapses, he is athletic enough to escape and make a play out of nothing. That is better than what we have.

So assuming neither one makes any progress from 2010...

JC = First read, no, second read, no, throw out of bounds.

CN = First read, no, run.

How does that make Cam any better or worse?

Oh yeah, that's right, because running QBs fumble about 3x more than pocket passers.

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After the combine it was all about Newton "not having his own receivers" (dumb excuse, given that no one else did either, but okay).

Fast forward to today. He has "his" receivers, a familiar setting, no pass rush, no defenders, and yet still managed to throw a higher percentage of incompletions than prior "elite" quarterbacks did at their pro days.

That doesn't solidify anything for me :nonod:

If we take him, I'll hope that it's the right pick, but I'm far from convinced of that right now.

clearly there were 5 drops of those incomplete balls so that makes cam 55 for 60, plus he was throwing into a pretty stiff wind, but i guess that means nothing to Mr. Scot :biggrin:

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