Did Goddell lie to the owners?

[Highlandfire]

I am thinking so after reading this. It seems to insinuate the NFL lied about the actual percentages which made the owners want to opt out of the CBA.

IF, and its a big if, this is true then the owners need to fire Goddell immediately.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FBN_NFL_LABOR_THE_NUMBERS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-21-12-19-36

[Lout]

The owner's are the one's lying to the players. They have constantly said that the players got 70%+ on the total revenue's.. but they got that calculation by not counting the $1 billion the owners get off the top.. which is very conniving imho. The owners have a sweet deal, only giving the players around 50% of total revenues. They should leave it as is, and just install a rookie wage scale and redivert the saving to the veterans.

[Rhys]

Goddell, son of Zeusus, who's mother is Mary Magazine.

[Matt Moore]

que?

you got it backwards

[Matt Moore]

goodell hints that the owners may have lied

FIRE GOODELL

[BBQ&Beer]

Ok, I just went over the article real quick on my way to class...

I seem to be missing the part where Goddell lied. Little help?

[Matt Moore]

Ok, I just went over the article real quick on my way to class...

I seem to be missing the part where Goddell lied. Little help?

I see what hes talking about

Goodell said something about the revenue problem a year ago which made owners like JR say oh sh*t and they start panicking and tank the season so they can lock the players out

the article has some calculations that shows that the NFL is wrong about their revenue

[Lout]

How would it benefit Goodell to lie about it? His salary is $1.

[Lords0fPain]

Looks like they are adding the 1 billion, that was agreed to come off the top. Rather is is counted it or not, is the issue. Since the union agreed (if you agree with something, you shouldn't take it back later, right?) to let the owners take off the top, it should not be counted. A good article would have gave the totals BOTH ways....just saying. either way both are wrong..

[jtnc]

How would it benefit Goodell to lie about it? His salary is $1.

Because he knows it isn't gonna last that long. And he's already rich from being VP of NFL.

[carpanfan96]

I guess the numbers being wrong come down to how much does it cost the NFL to host all the games in a given season. Clean up cost and so forth for 512 games not counting playoffs and such.

I know that the Forbes article shows that the profits for the teams averages out to around 20million a year with a couple teams being in the negative in profits over the last few seasons.

The Dolphins situation is pretty bad as well with them being around 400 million in debt because of stadium issues.

[Lords0fPain]

- In 2005, player costs were $3.32 billion, and all revenue was $6.49 billion;

Union way = 51%

Owners (taking the billion off the, as agreed) = 61%

- In 2006, the first year under the just-expired CBA, player costs rose to $4.1 billion, an increase of $780 million, which is 61 percent of that year's $1.28 billion increase in all revenue to $7.77 billion;

Union = 53%

Owners (as per agreement) = 61%

- By 2009, player costs were $4.5 billion, while all revenues were $8.88 billion.

Union= 51%

Owners (exactly what does the contract say, in this matter?)= 57%

All the talk about "lockout" probably help sales (certainly help the ratings), this particular year.

As I said, both are in the wrong. Players for agreeing to let the owners take a billion off the top and then wanting to count it (in their favor). Owners for not checking their own numbers and/or fudging them.

[CarolinaVeins]

I never did like Goodell. I feel like some of the suspensions he handed out were not fair and balanced. On top of that he toned down the TD celebrations. Hes the commissoner of the No Fun League. Bring the NFL back! Fire Goodell

[Jackofalltrades]

Who's Goddell?