Rivera Talks QBs

[ncmonzta]

If Rivera wants to last long, then he will pick the best available player and not stretch for a QB that is not a sure fire #1 pick.

Imagine if we had draft Carr #1 or Harrington #3, instead of Peppers at #2, Fox would have never taken us to the superbowl, 2 NFC championships and the homefield Arizona playoff game.

Coaches legacies are defined by their top draft pick....I don't see either QB in this draft becoming a Manning.

That's a good example of your point, but Cam Newton is no Harrington or Carr. A QB doesn't have to be a Manning. A Rodgers, Big Ben, Vick, or Freeman would fine with me.

[blackcatgrowl]

That's a good example of your point, but Cam Newton is no Harrington or Carr. A QB doesn't have to be a Manning. A Rodgers, Big Ben, Vick, or Freeman would fine with me.

This.

[CarolinaVeins]

If Rivera wants to last long, then he will pick the best available player and not stretch for a QB that is not a sure fire #1 pick.

Imagine if we had draft Carr #1 or Harrington #3, instead of Peppers at #2, Fox would have never taken us to the superbowl, 2 NFC championships and the homefield Arizona playoff game.

Coaches legacies are defined by their top draft pick....I don't see either QB in this draft becoming a Manning.

Fox still had to go get him a QB

[TheRealDeal]

Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson are the faces of their franchises as well, along with Patrick Willis, MJD, Ronnie Brown, Josh Cribbs, Richard Seymour, Hester, AP, Fitz, etc

[ncmonzta]

Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson are the faces of their franchises as well, along with Patrick Willis, MJD, Ronnie Brown, Josh Cribbs, Richard Seymour, Hester, AP, Fitz, etc

[mav1234]

That's a good example of your point, but Cam Newton is no Harrington or Carr. A QB doesn't have to be a Manning. A Rodgers, Big Ben, Vick, or Freeman would fine with me.

Only Vick in that group went comparably high to our pick and the rest fell for a reason. It's easy to look at successful QBs and say "Man we need one like him!" but the reality is those guys weren't sure fires when they were taken either... They could have just as easily busted. Sometimes you gotta take that risk, but it has to be the right player. I don't know that the QBs available are right at #1... but i'm not the one pulling the trigger either.

[Mr. Scot]

That's a good example of your point, but Cam Newton is no Harrington or Carr.

We don't know that (and not just about Newton).

[CRA]

If Rivera wants to last long, then he will pick the best available player and not stretch for a QB that is not a sure fire #1 pick.

Imagine if we had draft Carr #1 or Harrington #3, instead of Peppers at #2, Fox would have never taken us to the superbowl, 2 NFC championships and the homefield Arizona playoff game.

Coaches legacies are defined by their top draft pick....I don't see either QB in this draft becoming a Manning.

No such thing as a sure fire #1. Hindsight.

Rivera ain't gonna last long if he keeps Clausen as his starter and wastes a season b/c he didn't bother to attempt to find a QB.

Rivera doesn't need a Manning. Rivera is a defensive guy to the core....he ain't gonna have a team built like Indy. He just needs to find a Josh Freeman type guy.......if he can that will be well worth the pick at #1.

[blackcatgrowl]

We don't know that (and not just about Newton).

The hell we don't.

- He's physically more gifted than either.

- He has better college stats

- He has more college accomplishments than either.

Now, you can say "but college stats don't matter" till you're blue in the face, but you're lying in the face of common sense and the truth.

The fact is, franchise QBs as a rule don't come with poor college stats on their resumes.

[TheRealDeal]

A Smith did a lot with an underwhelming Utah team and he has a lot of tools.

[Mr. Scot]

The hell we don't.

- He's physically more gifted than either.

- He has better college stats

- He has more college accomplishments than either.

Now, you can say "but college stats don't matter" till you're blue in the face, but you're lying in the face of common sense and the truth.

The fact is, franchise QBs as a rule don't come with poor college stats on their resumes.

Actually, none of those things you just mentioned matter at the pro level.

There are plenty of awful pro quarterbacks who were phenomenal college quarterbacks.

Skill set is a way better predictor, but even there, no guarantees.

If you think there's no chance Newton could bust, think again. There's plenty of chance. Ditto Gabbert and Mallett.

[blackcatgrowl]

Actually, none of those things you just mentioned matter at the pro level.

1. Being physically gifted not only matters, but is required for pro level play.

2. Show me a FRANCHISE quality QB... (not a just a poor performing starter, but a FRANCHISE quality pro-bowler) who had bad college stats.

You're pretty much full of crap with this statement so there's no point in replying to the rest of your post.

[TheRealDeal]

Cutler?

[Jerry]

There are NO QB's in the 2011 draft worthy of the #1 overall pick.

There are a ton of future pro-bowlers out there that will instantly improve

our team. Any new QB will set us back another couple years. Don't make

a huge mistake and draft a QB but if we do the dumb thing and take a QB

I'd take Gabbert over Newton. Gabbert is far more polished and NFL ready.