Racism Quiz

[Cat'sGrowl]

But But But Scot, playing the race card to protect who I want us to draft is a great thing to fall back on in a debate!

How dare you expect us to come to a debate and have to stand up to facts!

There's only one possible reason! Your racist!

[Tom]

You, sir, do not understand what playing the race card means.

Saying something like "This bad thing only happened to me because I'm X race"

is what I consider playing the race card.

You said you got jumped (bad thing) because you were the only white kid (claiming race as the motivating factor for the bad thing).

Not sure how that isn't playing the race card.

[rico6]

You're spelling you're wrong.

[Mr. Scot]

I would like to end this thread by saying Mr. Scot is racist.

:)

And here I never used the terrorist jokes on you :(

The problem with this thread is that whether or not this PFT guy I never heard of is letting race influence his take on QBs really has nothing to do with whether that's generally commonplace.

OP seems to think this quiz will disprove the existence of racially-influenced analysis. I don't see how it does that, and as others have noted, it seems impossible to deny that certain characteristics have often been associated with athletes of certain races, and that those are often unfair.

Just because Moon might be wrong about this guy doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Never said it didn't, though I honestly couldn't point you to a single major analyst of whom I've seen any evidence that would lead me to think they're racist.

Some guy in his mom's basement with a website? Maybe, but who cares?

scot, what point are you trying to make?

The one I said in the original post.

(look again; it's there)

[Mr. Scot]

But But But Scot, playing the race card to protect who I want us to draft is a great thing to fall back on in a debate!

How dare you expect us to come to a debate and have to stand up to facts!

There's only one possible reason! Your racist!

:lol:

Why do you think some of these guys not only refused to try it, but protested the very idea?

[Montsta]

Does anyone else here find it EXTREMELY racist when a black guy calls a white guy "white boy". I'm not trying to fuel any fires or jump on one side or the other, but I find it every bit as racist and offensive as the N word, but I get called it by my black friends regularly. Any thoughts? I especially would like to hear from the huddles' black contingent.

[panthers55]

That is called a fact, not a race card.

If you act like you do now you weren't beat up for being white just to give you a clue. If you said in person half of what you say on this message board you would still be getting beat up every day. In fact there would be a line.

[TheRealDeal]

Saying something like "This bad thing only happened to me because I'm X race"

is what I consider playing the race card.

You said you got jumped (bad thing) because you were the only white kid (claiming race as the motivating factor for the bad thing).

Not sure how that isn't playing the race card.

Examples:

I walk up to a black guy and punch him in the face repeatedly because he's black and I hate black people. It's okay for him to say that it was because he's black because I told him it was because he's black and I hate black people.

If I come home from work and a black guy is fugging my wife and I punch him in the face then he claims I did it only because he's black, that's pulling the race card.

Do you understand the difference?

[Mr. Scot]

I'm not trying to speak for him, but...

If there is no clear racial bias in the assessments offered up in the quiz, then why should this writer be labeled racist for his words about Newton?

Is it so unfathomable to think that a writer can have genuine feelings about a subject that are blind to the color of their skin?

I don't think Mr. Scot is trying to say racism doesn't exist... I think he's trying to say that not everyone that dislikes Newton for various reasons is driven to those conclusions based on him being black...

Congrats. You get it :hurray:

I'd award you extra credit to get you out of the basement on the scores, but I'm too contrary for that :lol:

[Mr. Scot]

However, assuming there is racial bias without proof or specific reason is in itself a form of bias. Since you know the QB (Cam) was black, did you jump to assume any criticism was racially motivated? That is probably the most logical assumption, and this is all about assumption.

Scot is simply turning the tables. Making you point out CONCRETE REASONS for the accusation. If you cannot identify what drove you to your assumption, the perhaps the bias is yours, and nobody else's.

Dismissing this process without seeing its point is another form of narrow-mindedness that must first be in place in order to accuse others of narrow-mindedness without proof.

Yep :thumbsup:

[tarheelpride]

1. Black

2. White

3. White

4. White

5. White

6. Black

7. White

8. Blacks

9. White

10. Black

11. White

12. Black

13. Black – Russell

14. Black

[Montsta]

1. White

2. White

3. White

4. Black

5. White

6. Dominican

7. White

8. Black

9. El Salvadorian

10. Pacific Islander

11. White

12. Black

13. Black

14. Libyan

How'd I stack up Scot?

[TheRealDeal]

If you act like you do now you weren't beat up for being white just to give you a clue. If you said in person half of what you say on this message board you would still be getting beat up every day. In fact there would be a line.

You don't know me or anything about me. You do understand this is a message board and not real life right? Making a judgment based on what your perceive is my personality based on postings on a message board makes you seem dumber than I had thought.

BTW, if there were a line, I would walk through each and every one of you without any problem.

I'm sure if I met any of you in person, which will probably happen soon (Bleys and Boo, get on the bus) they won't have a bad thing to say.

[teeray]

I understand what you want to say here. But sorry, there's nothing worthy of respect about accusing a guy of racism without good reason.

Just the opposite in fact. In doing this, Moon is practicing the very ignorance he's accusing Nawrocki of.

I ave loads of respect for Warren Moon and everything that he accomplished, but not for this. This is wrong.

Calling someone racist is very different from claiming someone fell victim to racial bias.

Just because Nawrocki isn't racist doesn't mean he can't fall into the trap of racial bias.

How hard is it to understand that?

Actually it is the very problem. Us white fellas have convinced ourselves it doesn't exist so they belittle it, or make a quiz game to literally "trivialize" it.

Instead of worrying so much about defending Nawrocki's honor so much how about taking 5 minutes to think about the people who live it everyday.

Like my basketball buddy who spent the night in jail for simply walking through a neighborhood while a white home owner called the cops because he "looked suspicious". Then he was taken to the station and questioned about a break in from 6 months earlier that had nothing to do with him.

Or my other basketball buddy who was stopped twice in his car and was forced to sit on the side if the road while his car was searched despite no probable cause.

Even if you think Nawrocki was fair and balanced with his critique it is contrary to what has been reported by Yas, Wyche, and Brandt in recent days.

So you maybe right that some of us can't prove that racial bias played a part in his

analysis. But you can't prove it didn't. And a quiz that proves nothing yet trivializes racial bias, isn't enough to change anyone's mind who has seen the ramifications of it.

The greatest trick the Devil performed was convincing the world he doesn't exist.