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Newton might have critics, but some say Gabbert isn't special

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Hindsight is 20/20, no?

No. These guys were clear cut ready for the NFL and were regarded as such. EVERY QB in this draft has as many worries as they do talent or 'Potential'.

BTW know the #1 thing that keeps franchises from succeeding? 'Potential'. More often than not when the #1 asset they have is Potential, they don't ever reach it.

Don't reach this year, trade down stock up on picks. Draft whomever then trade for or sign a veteran. Take a QB next year.

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No. These guys were clear cut ready for the NFL and were regarded as such. EVERY QB in this draft has as many worries as they do talent or 'Potential'.

BTW know the #1 thing that keeps franchises from succeeding? 'Potential'. More often than not when the #1 asset they have is Potential, they don't ever reach it.

Don't reach this year, trade down stock up on picks. Draft whomever then trade for or sign a veteran. Take a QB next year.

So you told me what keeps franchises from succeeding so tell me what makes them succeed?

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No. These guys were clear cut ready for the NFL and were regarded as such. EVERY QB in this draft has as many worries as they do talent or 'Potential'.

BTW know the #1 thing that keeps franchises from succeeding? 'Potential'. More often than not when the #1 asset they have is Potential, they don't ever reach it.

Don't reach this year, trade down stock up on picks. Draft whomever then trade for or sign a veteran. Take a QB next year.

The above is NOT true about Stafford and Ryan, its easy to say it now because people know how they turned out BUT they had their own question marks and doubters. Saying now "these guys were clear cut ready....." after the fact is hindsight bias.

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There weren't many question marks with Ryan, but there definitely were with Stafford. He was never as good as advertised at Georgia especially with immense talent. A lot of people thought he was the next bust with the big arm. Only knock on Ryan was his downfield velocity, and that definitely is not a problem in hindsight.

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.........c) fug it Jimmy sucks, we have to draft one of them.

.............Option C is a perfectly valid opinion, it is just one that I don't happen to share. I think we still have potential in our current QB corps. I don't see the need to spend the number 1 pick on a position when we don't even know what we have there already. We know we have jackpoo at DT and there is a guy sitting right there who is as much of a slam dunk as any DT (excluding Suh) coming out in recent memory.

Besides, maybe Clausen, the current QB corps does NOT have potential. Obviously that is a place were we and others have different opinions. If Hurney, Rivera, etc think Cam is a significant upgrade over Clausen then despite "not knowing what we have" you still have to pick Cam. Then if Clausen does pan out thats even better.

Regarding drafting a DT.... the Panthers defense is not bad despite the hole at that position. In addition, with Rivera and McDermott, they shouldnt have any problems having an even better unit even if they dont draft a DT.

People are so worried about setting the franchise back by drafting Cam, yet passing on ANOTHER QB to go position player could just as easily set it back more.

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Besides, maybe Clausen, the current QB corps does NOT have potential. Obviously that is a place were we and others have different opinions. If Hurney, Rivera, etc think Cam is a significant upgrade over Clausen then despite "not knowing what we have" you still have to pick Cam. Then if Clausen does pan out thats even better.

Regarding drafting a DT.... the Panthers defense is not bad despite the hole at that position. In addition, with Rivera and McDermott, they shouldnt have any problems having an even better unit even if they dont draft a DT.

People are so worried about setting the franchise back by drafting Cam, yet passing on ANOTHER QB to go position player could just as easily set it back more.

Exactly.

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Besides, maybe Clausen, the current QB corps does NOT have potential. Obviously that is a place were we and others have different opinions. If Hurney, Rivera, etc think Cam is a significant upgrade over Clausen then despite "not knowing what we have" you still have to pick Cam. Then if Clausen does pan out thats even better.

Regarding drafting a DT.... the Panthers defense is not bad despite the hole at that position. In addition, with Rivera and McDermott, they shouldnt have any problems having an even better unit even if they dont draft a DT.

People are so worried about setting the franchise back by drafting Cam, yet passing on ANOTHER QB to go position player could just as easily set it back more.

Just becuase you may think they are an upgrade over what you have, you do not necessarily use the #1 pick on a QB.

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