If you knew Newton would hit his upside

[csx]

That's just it. He'd be as good a runner as you'd ever want. But at maximum ability as many state newt would be beyond that.your comefortable with him living up to be as good a runner as you would want. But, he could go so much further beyond that. He would redefine the quarterback position.

Your debating debating luck is better now sure but that isn't what the on is asking.

My answer is Luck. I don't want a running QB. That's just my opinion.

The question is a bit silly.

[micnificent28]

28 please don't turn this thread into a pro-Cam campaign agenda. It's clear your answers are extremely bias, we get it already it's that obvious. You don't have to respond to people who think Luck would be better.

Highly subjective question to each individual. They are two totally different players, but I would still take Luck. I would rather have the full potential of his intelligence and have a smart passer like Brees, Brady, Manning and Rivers who pirck apart defenses rather than having Cam's full athletic ability and have a QB who can run. Success or not running won't last forever. I think Lucks intelligence and ability to read defenses rather than leaning on running himself would be the most successful, more NFL-usable potential I guess you could say.

If Luck came out this year, we'd pick him over Newton right? I think if you made the decision to pick either one you'd think you could get him to his full potential wouldn't you?

you oviously can't read. The question wasnt about who thinks cam or luck is better, its who would be if they both max out there potential. If they both were equally the same passer newton would be better simply bacuse he's a better athlete. simple.

[micnificent28]

Most would take manning or marino simply because there is no comparison for a mobile elite passer. it doesn't exist but if it did, I think i would choose it over the next great line of gun slingers.

[csx]

you oviously can't read. The question wasnt about who thinks cam or luck is better, its who would be if they both max out there potential. If they both were equally the same passer newton would be better simply bacuse he's a better athlete. simple.

So the question isn't who is better, but who is better in fantasy land? Oh......ok.

[X-Clown]

With Newton coming to town this week I wonder if the Panthers staff have locked away their computers?;)

Very funny comment coming from a Falcons fan. Who's the next headcase from VA tech that you're going to draft this year?

[Lumps]

. If they both were equally the same passer

But their not, not even close.

Reading defenses, not even close.

Those two matter more in the NFL, either has little to do with athleticism and are exactly what make up the most successful QBs today.

Like someone said it is a silly question because Cams potential right now is his ability to run. Then you'll say go look at the tape he can pass too. I think he could pass becasue defenses were scared he was going to run. That is a huge element to put on a defense and its really hard to transfer potential like that to the NFL. If defenses stopped both QBs from running around who would have more potential?

If Luck were to come out he'd go before Newton because his potential is higher, that is what I am saying. Unless you supported Newton before Luck declared you're full of hype. You draft someone because you think you can bring someone to their full potential.

[micnificent28]

So the question isn't who is better, but who is better in fantasy land? Oh......ok.

Thats what the op said who would be better if they both reach there maximum potential. If both lived up to ever bit of the hype. not who is where right now. it's simple. If both were equal passers and one brings alittle bit more to the table as a runner than the other, which do you think would be better?

[Lumps]

Thats what the op said who would be better if they both reach there maximum potential. If both lived up to ever bit of the hype. not who is where right now. it's simple. If both were equal passers and one brings alittle bit more to the table as a runner than the other, which do you think would be better?

If Newton has the same potential that Luck does to be a passer, Luck has the same potential as Newton to be a runner.

[micnificent28]

But their not, not even close.

Reading defenses, not even close.

Those two matter more in the NFL, either has little to do with athleticism and are exactly what make up the most successful QBs today.

Like someone said it is a silly question because Cams potential right now is his ability to run. Then you'll say go look at the tape he can pass too. I think he could pass becasue defenses were scared he was going to run. That is a huge element to put on a defense and its really hard to transfer potential like that to the NFL. If defenses stopped both QBs from running around who would have more potential?

If Luck were to come out he'd go before Newton because his potential is higher, that is what I am saying. Unless you supported Newton before Luck declared you're full of hype. You draft someone because you think you can bring someone to their full potential.

The arguement about most successful QBs to day being just good at reading defenses is mute. The super bowl winning qb this year isn't exactly in the same mold as manning and so on. The league is evolving, Just because tons of pocket passers have been successful in winning in the past doesn't mean a mobile quarterback can't be.

At any given time there are 32 quarterbacks that start for a team,2 or 3 considered to be mobile, tell me what are the odds of one of them winning a super bowl? Having a lower serving of something doesn't make one better than the other.

[csx]

Given this fantasy world, I'll take both. Newton could also play RB and TE and go to the HOF at 3 positions.

[teeray]

This is the weirdest debate ever. But... but... Newton would be awesomer!!

Nuh ugh Luck would be awesomer!!

They would both be awesome..... and I would be estatic to have either guy if they maxed out their potential. I would take Cam but I am not going to mount a very convincing debate against Luck if he is awesome too.

[micnificent28]

If Newton has the same potential that Luck does to be a passer, Luck has the same potential as Newton to be a runner.

Not true. Newton has a better arm which can't be taught. Accuracy can be improved,better foot work release and so on. those can be be improved with better technique. I'm not a marksman,but if i practiced at it over time i'm sure i'd get better at it. Newton just has what luck could never work to get. You don't become a better athlete, you can't teach size and speed. Luck at max wouldn't be what newton is easy.

[micnificent28]

It is crazy because i would have taken luck number 1 overall this year. i was praying he declared. With that said, You can't teach speed and size. Newton is a freak,an oddity. Luck is more likely to be successful,but i don't think anyone can mount a decent arguement that luck has"more" potential than Newton.

[csx]

"potential" isn't a real thing. It doesn't actually help anyone in any way.