Volek not likely an option

[Mr. Scot]

Lack of free agent options doesn't effect anybody's draft grade.

It might make a team more likely to reach, but it doesn't stop a pick from being a reach.

[teeray]

If we do draft Cam Newton I think it would be safe to say that our FO didn't think it was a reach. However, you are free to disagree.

[Carolina Husker]

Such a dumb argument. If he's worth taking at 10, he's worth taking at 1, especially if you think he fills a need and your next pick isn't until the 3rd round.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Yeah, I'm cool with missing out on the Volek sweepstakes. He's just not a guy that should start 16 games at this point, and it will put a lot of pressure on any quarterback we draft to play now.

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

Such a dumb argument. If he's worth taking at 10, he's worth taking at 1, especially if you think he fills a need and your next pick isn't until the 3rd round.

Too bad he's ranked 16th on the big board :lol:

[Panthro]

Too bad he's ranked 16th on the big board :lol:

Too bad he's ranked #1 on my Super Big Board :eek:

Super Big Board>>>big board

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Such a dumb argument. If he's worth taking at 10, he's worth taking at 1

I don't think so. What if you have 9 players at other positions rated higher? It seems silly to take a guy over better players just because you currently have a need.

[Real Emotional Trash]

He's ranked #4 in my heart...

#3 of course being Matlock, #2 being Steve Smitty, and #1 obviously being delicious Bojangles biscuits.

[Carolina Husker]

Too bad he's ranked 16th on the big board :lol:

Oh jeez well then I take it all back.

A reach would be taking a guy with 4th round talent grades in the first. Taking a guy 1st instead of 16th makes no difference if you only have one pick per round anyway.

[Carolina Husker]

I don't think so. What if you have 9 players at other positions rated higher? It seems silly to take a guy over better players just because you currently have a need.

Again, just because he's 9th on Mel Kiper's board doesn't mean he is on Hurney's.

Hell, Clausen looks like a huge reach now where we took him, and he was supposed to have been a steal in the 2nd.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Again, just because he's 9th on Mel Kiper's board doesn't mean he is on Hurney's.

Hell, Clausen looks like a huge reach now where we took him, and he was supposed to have been a steal in the 2nd.

I'm talking about Hurney's board. I have no idea what's on Kiper's board. One of the reason's we ended up with Clausen is because we drafted for need.

I was under the impression that you were saying if we had the guy ranked 10th, we should take him at one because of need. If that's not the case, my bad.

[Mr. Scot]

Such a dumb argument. If he's worth taking at 10, he's worth taking at 1, especially if you think he fills a need and your next pick isn't until the 3rd round.

All the #10 picks of the 2000s...

- Tyson Alualu

- Michael Crabree

- Jerod Mayo

- Amobi Okoye

- Matt Leinart

- Mike Williams

- Dunta Robinson

- Terrell Suggs

- Levi Jones

- Jamal Reynolds

- Travis Taylor

So these guys would all have been worthy of taking at #1 overall?

(there are plenty of guys taken in the 6-9 spots that could be referenced here too)

If you wanted to say any top five or top three pick is worthy of #1, I could see it. Top ten though? Not so much.

[KillerKat]

F**k Volek

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Thank God. It was beyond me why any of you wanted the Panthers to sign him anyway. His record as a starter is worse than Matt Moore's as well as his touchdown to interception ratio. If we want to teach Cam Newton how to throw interceptions, lets just sign Delhomme again.