Denver media looking at Williams

[The Saltman]

I dont think with his old rookie contract and his performance the last 2 years he would get us a 3rd rounder comp pick. possibly a 4th.

[Jangler]

I could "look at him" too.

There are plenty of pictures of him online, and he is one of my facebook friends.

oh grow up

[pantherfan49]

I dont think with his old rookie contract and his performance the last 2 years he would get us a 3rd rounder comp pick. possibly a 4th.

The compensation pick is based off of the contract that a player signs with the new team (at least that's what I think).

[The Saltman]

oh gotcha. well its very doubtful anybody gives williams a contract in the likes of peppers.

even his new contract will warrant a 4th or lower.

[Peppers90 NC]

lazy ass media people... "oh john fox used to coach the panthers didnt he? who do they have at rb? oh deangelo is pretty good, holy poo! he is a fa, since fox use to coach him, he probably wants to play here in denver. we got him!!!!" our media might as well say phillip rivers wants to play here

[pantherfan49]

oh gotcha. well its very doubtful anybody gives williams a contract in the likes of peppers.

even his new contract will warrant a 4th or lower.

Maybe. GB got a 4th rounder for losing Aaron Kampman, Tennessee got a 4th for Algae Crumpler and Kyle Vandenbosch minus whatever compensation reduction for signing Jason Babin. Hell Carolina got a 7th rounder for AJ Feeley.

The point is that DeAngelo is going to get offered a 4 or 5 year deal which will take him through 23 or 33 years of age. I am not paying a RB that close to 30 the kind of money it will take to resign him when Stewart and Goody are also on the team and under contract.

[Mother Grabber]

He may be close to 30, but he still has a lot of tread on his tires. He sat behind Fumbles Foster for his first couple of years, and then split carries with Stewart for the next few. He hasn't had to be the 'feature back.' While he has plenty of experience, he hasn't taken the consistent pounding of typical backs his age.

[The Saltman]

Ya if Stewart goes down we will be back to fumbles Goodson.

[CatMan72]

I'm talking in general I know it's really a different topic but many broncos fans have deangelo as their starting rb and the reason they give for us not resigning him isn't the typical JR is cheap excuse but "who wants to play for that bad of a team" um lolwat to the team that picked 2nd overall

Rant done :)

That's funny coming from a team who had the # 2 overall pick...

[jtm]

Maybe. GB got a 4th rounder for losing Aaron Kampman, Tennessee got a 4th for Algae Crumpler and Kyle Vandenbosch minus whatever compensation reduction for signing Jason Babin. Hell Carolina got a 7th rounder for AJ Feeley.

The point is that DeAngelo is going to get offered a 4 or 5 year deal which will take him through 23 or 33 years of age. I am not paying a RB that close to 30 the kind of money it will take to resign him when Stewart and Goody are also on the team and under contract.

I don't really understand your logic unless you are confident that the Panthers can continue to draft solid running backs in the draft. Stewart will be an unrestricted free agent in 2013 and will be 27 (I think) at that point. Do you let him walk also because he will require a 4-5 year contract to resign? Same deal for Goodson? Should we not have resigned Stephen Davis back in the day because his rookie contract was up?

I would think history would teach us otherwise. We have had more average running backs v. pro bowlers in the Panthers history. I don't agree to the contention that running backs are as easy to come by as everyone thinks.

[jtm]

Do people understand on this board that when you see a 32 or 33 year old player still getting paid a large contract, it is normally because they took less money yearly and a longer contract, v. more money yearly and a shorter contract to help their team with cap money?

[DaCityKats]

we have plenty of money, spend it.he deserves it.

[pantherfan49]

He may be close to 30, but he still has a lot of tread on his tires. He sat behind Fumbles Foster for his first couple of years, and then split carries with Stewart for the next few. He hasn't had to be the 'feature back.' While he has plenty of experience, he hasn't taken the consistent pounding of typical backs his age.

He was the feature back for a long time at Memphis and absorbed a lot of hits. The fact is that we slow as we get older.

[pantherfan49]

I don't really understand your logic unless you are confident that the Panthers can continue to draft solid running backs in the draft. Stewart will be an unrestricted free agent in 2013 and will be 27 (I think) at that point. Do you let him walk also because he will require a 4-5 year contract to resign? Same deal for Goodson? Should we not have resigned Stephen Davis back in the day because his rookie contract was up?

I would think history would teach us otherwise. We have had more average running backs v. pro bowlers in the Panthers history. I don't agree to the contention that running backs are as easy to come by as everyone thinks.

Stewart is a bit younger so you consider resigning him. A lot will depend on whether the Panthers have options once Stewart's contract runs out. The Panthers do have options now that DeAngelo's contract has run out.

Yes, I am confident that the Panthers can draft solid running backs. They did draft DeAngelo, Stewart, and Goodson. They also picked up a pretty darn good back in Sutton who was undrafted.

As far as Stephen Davis, he is a perfect example of why you don't give big money to RBs. Davis signed in 03 when he was 29 years old (and at a discount because of injury history)***. He had a great first year and then never played the same again. What happened? He turned 30 and had a bum knee. Fortunately, the Panthers had not signed him to a 5 year, 35 million dollar deal like it is going to take to resign DeAngelo. With Davis, they cut their losses and moved on.

***Davis accepted a five-year, $15.5 million deal that paid him $4 million in the first year of the contract.