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What will a $123 million dollar cap allow the the Panthers to do?

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This is a question for all the number crunchers.Who(and how much will it cost) will we sign/re-sign and how much will we have for the FA market?From what I see we have about 73 million commited in 2011.

I understand we do not have the rookie salary structure but I am trying to understand what it will cost to either sign or replace our existing FAs and how much will we have availible for additional FAs. 50 million may not go far considering what it cost for Cam,CJ and company.

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This is a question for all the number crunchers.Who(and how much will it cost) will we sign/re-sign and how much will we have for the FA market?From what I see we have about 73 million commited in 2011.

I understand we do not have the rookie salary structure but I am trying to understand what it will cost to either sign or replace our existing FAs and how much will we have availible for additional FAs. 50 million may not go far considering what it cost for Cam,CJ and company.

We need DE, DT, WR, CB, OL, QB. Wanna see magic? Watch this $73m disappear. If we trade Smith and CJ ditches us, we will be $80m under.

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This is a question for all the number crunchers.Who(and how much will it cost) will we sign/re-sign and how much will we have for the FA market?From what I see we have about 73 million commited in 2011.

I understand we do not have the rookie salary structure but I am trying to understand what it will cost to either sign or replace our existing FAs and how much will we have availible for additional FAs. 50 million may not go far considering what it cost for Cam,CJ and company.

We sign our rookies and our key free agents.

After Anderson, Davis, Kalil, and Williams a lot of that cap will disappear.

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If the team signs Kalil, Williams, Johnson, Davis and Anderson to deals that number is going to be around 110-115 counting the rookies.

Rookies will make around 12 million combined.

Johnson will take around 10 million

Kalil will be on the books for 10 million.

Williams will get something around 7 million per

Anderson after being a beast last season, probably about 5 - 6 million per.

So 42 million for those players, then after Beason's extension and the team is at the Cap limit with no extra money left over.

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If we can (and should) sign Kalil to a long term deal, then his salary for the year would most likely drop from his franchise tag figure clearing up another few million. We are going to have to pinch some pennies on some of these deals if we are going to get anyone else other than our own FA's.

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No sir. Mine came from FIFA. Where were we?

lol, mine didn't come from either. I think they let Dwill walk to pick up a WR or DT in FA. I don't see them letting Johnson walk and I think the biggest contract he gets will be from Carolina. With this cap figure its going to be hard for him to get something better then a 6 year deal worth 75-80 million, which is what I see Carolina offering him. I just put the first year's hit as 10 million.

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If the team signs Kalil, Williams, Johnson, Davis and Anderson to deals that number is going to be around 110-115 counting the rookies.

Rookies will make around 12 million combined.

Johnson will take around 10 million

Kalil will be on the books for 10 million.

Williams will get something around 7 million per

Anderson after being a beast last season, probably about 5 - 6 million per.

So 42 million for those players, then after Beason's extension and the team is at the Cap limit with no extra money left over.

The rookie pool is usually around 4 million since we had the first pick would probally be about 5. But that was before the rookie wage scale so who knows now.

While Johnson, Williams and Anderson new contracts would average about what you said for each year. But each would be structured so that most of the money for salary cap purposes hit in the last 2 or 3 years of each deal. I would guess Johnson for year 1 = 4 to 5 million cap hit, Williams for year 1 = 5 to 6 million(rb always get shorter contracts) and Anderson for year 1 = 2 to 3 million. Kalil is taged but if he signs a new contract and they remove the tag that 10 million is basically cut in half

So even after the sign the rookies and their own free agents they will probally still have at least 30 million to play with. Plenty of room to redo Beason's contract and sign a backup qb and basically get anyone they want from the free agent market.

The question then becomes who wants to come here???????

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i hope the training you guys had on the salery cap didn't come from madden

Why's that, didn't like the numbers? Don't like the fact that the Panthers will probably be quite in FA again if they sign their own players...

73 million > current cap for Carolina

Kalil = 10 million (it's going to take a deal worth 7-9 a year to get him, he's considered one of the best in the league and is still pretty young.)

Johnson = Hit - 6 million His deal is going to be 10 million per at least if not more. Best fa DE on the Market pass rushing wise by a wide margin. They can back load his contract and make a good portion of it signing bonuses and such to get that hit down in the 5-6 range.

Davis and Anderson - 8 - 10 million combined salary with a hit of around 5.75 million. Davis probably gets a 1 or 2 year deal, while Anderson might end up walking because I think its going to take a 5 mil per over 5 years kinda deal with about 25 in signing bonuses to keep him.

Williams - 7 million per, first year cap hit around 4-5 million, Best FA RB by a wide margin. One of the best in the league at making people miss when he's healthy. I think the team lets him walk, he's going to command too much money and the team has too many holes.

Cap hit after those - With everyone on board and Kalil getting his Franchise tag deal. Cap hit for this season would probably be around 99 million.

Rookies -

Newton is going to get around 7 million per with about 16 in bonuses.

Rest of the Rookies will probably be in the 6-7 million combined range, for all the rookies probably looking at a cap hit of around 6 - 10 million.

All told if the team keeps everyone they would have a cap hit of around 109 to 114 million. Leaving around 10-15 million to work with depending on the actual cap number.

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