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What is better for Cam's chance at stardom

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jherald Newbie

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I've been getting flamed on another post...I'm assuming it's your turn.

But to answer your question, he should logically sit for a year but with my heart, I want him to start day one. Huge Cam fan here and don't care who knows it.

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I think he should sit and play the later half of the season. He going to have to play anyway because we got to see what we can get out of him. I dont want our team to be in a position were we have different QB playing ever week.Once Newton get the job he has it for good.

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cam's stardom? seriously? that is what is important?

i guess if you are a fan of the player first, i guess it's understandable and welcome aboard the bandwagon.

but as a panthers fan, i don't care about anyone's "stardom". i just want to win games.

i liked cam the most in this draft because i thought he would be good for the team and help them win. how he is perceived doesn't really matter to me all that much as long as he helps this team win. thats all that matters.

you concerned about his stardom? winning games...thats how he's going to do it. doesn't matter when that starts, just as long as it does.

meh...

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cam's stardom? seriously? that is what is important?

i guess if you are a fan of the player first, i guess it's understandable and welcome aboard the bandwagon.

but as a panthers fan, i don't care about anyone's "stardom". i just want to win games.

i liked cam the most in this draft because i thought he would be good for the team and help them win. how he is perceived doesn't really matter to me all that much as long as he helps this team win. thats all that matters.

you concerned about his stardom? winning games...thats how he's going to do it. doesn't matter when that starts, just as long as it does.

meh...

Yea and if you take the right steps with the guy you took #1 overall at the QB position you will win a lot of games. Don't get your panties in a bind, we're just talking football.

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I want him to come in and run some plays and have a set right off the bat assuming that there is a better option in Anderson. Otherwise the best choice for the Panthers is to put the best guy out there day 1. If that is Newton then let him learn right away. If he can sit back and learn from a better option who knows the offense then I am fine for him to do that.

But to sit him protecting him while someone is awful makes no sense at all. Based on the last 5 years there is not a clear precedent to suggest that playing or sitting is more detrimental or helpful than the other.

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