Newton starter vs Bengals, Week 1 starter TBD

[rico6]

It's the hope that is most attractive about Cam, not the play so far.

Have to disagree there.

[TheRealDeal]

Mistyped, he threw 3 INTs AGAINST starters, filling in for the starter during games before he threw a TD.

Truth.

Feel free to ignore the rest of the relevance in the post as well.

I honestly don't value your opinion enough to comment on the rest of your post, I just wanted to point out the inaccuracy in the facts you tried to present.

Feel free to ignore the context of those plays as well, no one cares he came in to throw a hail mary that got picked off.

[mav1234]

He also has shown as poorly as some of you claim to have seen.

glad you agree. ;)

actually I don't think he's been all that poor, but we can consult rivera for what problems Cam has (strangely they sound a lot like what some of us are saying, but what can we say, Rivera's just a hater):

Coaches also want to see Newton improve his mechanics. The 6-5 right-hander completed 7 of 14 passes for 66 yards in the first half at Miami, but completed only one throw to a wideout and consistently misfired on longer passes.

But Rivera said he thought Newton made good decisions against the Dolphins.

“The next part is delivering the ball on time, hitting the receiver in stride,” he said.

source

[HsvPantherFan]

OMG if Cam can't make a name for himself against Cinci he should be moved to 3rd string! Cinci looks terrible so far.

The defense doesn't look bad. They have kept the Jets out of the endzone twice after the Jets started with a short field. It's the offense that's looked horrible.

[TheRealDeal]

He also has shown as poorly as some of you claim to have seen.

I'd put the blame on the bias of the reader for the poster.

[mav1234]

Have to disagree there.

I think Cam's play has been fine all things considered and gives reason for hope, but I think the main thrust behind the faith in him is unrelated to his preseason play. Do you really disagree?

[CRA]

The defense doesn't look bad. They have kept the Jets out of the endzone twice after the Jets started with a short field. It's the offense that's looked horrible.

Cincy has a good D and a well coached D.

[TheRealDeal]

glad you agree. ;)

actually I don't think he's been all that poor, but we can consult rivera for what problems Cam has (strangely they sound a lot like what some of us are saying, but what can we say, Rivera's just a hater):

source

Rivera being a bitch ass hater is what he is. He's mad that Cam took Moore's job and is critiquing him too toughly.

Cam is fine. Bitch ass WRs can't get open.

I'm going to put Rivera on ignore because I can't stand a word he posts.

[mav1234]

The defense doesn't look bad. They have kept the Jets out of the endzone twice after the Jets started with a short field. It's the offense that's looked horrible.

their defense is doing pretty well considering what their offense keeps giving the Jets...

[Ruff]

No matter if Cam starts, Jimmy starts, or whoever else starts at QB, we're going to need better play with the DBs and along the defensive line.

[micnificent28]

Look at tons of vets...we have the worst QB stable in the NFL, most people could come in here and be the starter.

Worse than the bangals really? I'd even say we on even ground with the seahawks.

[CRA]

I think Cam's play has been fine all things considered and gives reason for hope, but I think the main thrust behind the faith in him is unrelated to his preseason play. Do you really disagree?

wasn't directed at me....but no I don't disagree.

but that is something that is largely true about just every QB drafted where Cam was.....(or first round QBs in general who are assumed to play sooner rather than later).

[TheRealDeal]

Worse than the bangels really? I'd even say we on even ground with the seahawks.

We have a project QB rookie and the worst starter in the NFL from a season ago.

Gradkowski, TJax, Whitehurst have all shown to be better than what we have currently.

[Tarheels23]

Cam was in for 21 snaps....they ran on 3 of those. They weren't running the ball.

Cam had 11 1st and 2nd downs.....that would be qualified as running downs. So they ran on 27% of the running downs. They weren't trying to run Williams nor did they want to for a variety of reasons.

also....

Drive 1

1st play run

Newton pass for 1st down

then another run and they drive came up short.

So Newton at least picked of a first down on the drive they did 2 of there 3 run plays.

Drive 2

run

came up 1 yard short b/c Olsen did run his route to the 1st down marker....but Cam hit the pass.

So they ran on 2 drives....and Cam actually made some throws on those runs. Really got to fault Olsen on not getting that first the 2nd series.

but they weren't really trying to run.....and Cam wasn't the reason they weren't doing it. They didn't want to run Williams and they wanted Cam to pass.

This deserves repeating, because I don't understand why people don't get it.