Panthers Scouting Pat White hard

[Fireball77]

It was told to some and whispered around that Pat wouldnt be running routes and the Stewart (WVU coach)said he wouldnt be running routes. So scouts knew not to ask. Was it Whites people or WVU people dont know but it made some NFL people mad.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/did-pat-white-hurt-his-draft-stock/

Yeah that's closer to what I heard on NFLN yesterday as far as teams being mad because they were led to believe he was going to run routes because he had said he would when he was at the combine and some teams actually traveled there moreso to see him do that.

I know Rodriguez left on bad terms, but I seriously don't believe that the school would screw a player over because Rodriguez recruited him (not if they were looking at the big picture anyway). Particularly if it is true as most WV fans say that White developed more as a passer LAST YEAR which would have nothing to do with Rodriguez.

I trust Mayock the most of any draft pundit (well, besides Gosselin for his mock).

[scpanther22]

i hope we draft him just to see all the threads about what a bust he will be..

if we are in the market for a QB nate davis draft stock has fallen low.but i myslef rather have pat white

[Ncstatefan]

that panther third rounder needs to go OL, DL, or Secondary

i know the past two drafts the panthers have gone bpa, and it's worked out very well, but jesus chris if we draft pat white im going to be more pissed than i was when we took dwayne jarrett

Dwayne Jarrett is the future

Wait a couple years and draft Russell Wilson Woot!

Wooooo

[Mr. Scot]

Even if he is never a starting QB, if we drafted Pat White and turned him into a player like Antwaan Randle El, then I'd be forever happy.

Antwaan Randle El is hands down one of my favorite players in the NFL.

I look at Seneca Wallace more as the model for what I think Pat White could be than Antwaan Randle-El, but it's a valid comparison.

[Squirrel]

Yeah that's closer to what I heard on NFLN yesterday as far as teams being mad because they were led to believe he was going to run routes because he had said he would when he was at the combine and some teams actually traveled there moreso to see him do that.

I know Rodriguez left on bad terms, but I seriously don't believe that the school would screw a player over because Rodriguez recruited him (not if they were looking at the big picture anyway). Particularly if it is true as most WV fans say that White developed more as a passer LAST YEAR which would have nothing to do with Rodriguez.

I trust Mayock the most of any draft pundit (well, besides Gosselin for his mock).

He did develop more of a passer this past year then when Rodriguez was there. Before last year it was all short passes and running with a deep throw here and there. Last year they picked up Mullins from Wake Forest and he really helped Pat become a better QB.

[The Link]

Wait a couple years and draft Russell Wilson Woot!

No. Just....no.

[carpanfan96]

It was told to some and whispered around that Pat wouldnt be running routes and the Stewart (WVU coach)said he wouldnt be running routes. So scouts knew not to ask. Was it Whites people or WVU people dont know but it made some NFL people mad.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/12/did-pat-white-hurt-his-draft-stock/

MORGANTOWN, W. Va. — West Virginia’s Pro Day has drawn representatives from 25 NFL teams, most to get a deeper evaluation of multi-faceted quarterback Pat White.

White did not participate in any of the strength or running drills, choosing to stand on his draft combine performances in those realms.

White said he would run pass routes on Thursday and do wide receiver drills upon request. There were no requests. Though no one said they were told directly, one scout said West Virginia Coach Bill Stewart quietly spread the word that White wasn’t going to go through wide out drills. In fact, the majority of the people who were in attendance to watch White left after he completed his throwing and weren’t there to see him do anything else but throw.

According to NFL.com no one stayed to even see if he was going to run routes or not. So he ended up not doing so.

[SCP]

Just reporting what was said, wasn't commenting on it.

I will comment on how everyone on here thinks the players from their college schools are always simply the perfect players to meet the Panthers needs. It happens every year and it's pretty funny how it happens...

Whenever you are ready for me to break down Western Carolina football, let me know. There's skill up in them there mountains.

[Squirrel]

MORGANTOWN, W. Va. — West Virginia’s Pro Day has drawn representatives from 25 NFL teams, most to get a deeper evaluation of multi-faceted quarterback Pat White.

White did not participate in any of the strength or running drills, choosing to stand on his draft combine performances in those realms.

White said he would run pass routes on Thursday and do wide receiver drills upon request. There were no requests. Though no one said they were told directly, one scout said West Virginia Coach Bill Stewart quietly spread the word that White wasn’t going to go through wide out drills.In fact, the majority of the people who were in attendance to watch White left after he completed his throwing and weren’t there to see him do anything else but throw.

According to NFL.com no one stayed to even see if he was going to run routes or not. So he ended up not doing so.

See my bold they where told he wouldnt run routes. It was botched thing that happened and he should have ran some routes.

[King Taharqa]

I disagree. If Pat's set on being a QB, then he has absolutely no business running routes. There's plenty of real WRs that are available in the draft, why would I waste a pick on a player who hasnt played the position? He's played QB, he's won 4 bowl games as a QB, he wants to be a QB. He needs to focus solely on being a QB.

[Squirrel]

I disagree. If Pat's set on being a QB, then he has absolutely no business running routes. There's plenty of real WRs that are available in the draft, why would I waste a pick on a player who hasnt played the position? He's played QB, he's won 4 bowl games as a QB, he wants to be a QB. He needs to focus solely on being a QB.

Thing is some of those teams was expecting him to do WR drills. The kid is great and all but this didnt help him with the confusion. He said he would do WR drills at Pro Day then when Pro Day came Coach stewart whispered around that Pat wouldnt be doing them so the scouts new not to ask.

I really like Pat but that just hurt his draft because most of the teams was wanting to use him at WR. He is a great guy and he deserves the oppertunity to be QB but like Sapp told him if you are a QB be one but he needed to let the teams know that he wasnt going to be running routes before Pro day. It was botched deal that left a sour taste in some teams mouth.

He will get drafted and most likely now it will be with a team that is expecting him to be QB only. Which is great for him but it did hurt his draft and he will go lower than if he ran routes. I think he will fall to the 3rd or 4th round now instead of a possible second rounder. Still want him on the Panthers as he would fit right in with Smitty , Deangelo and stewart.

[rayzor]

I disagree. If Pat's set on being a QB, then he has absolutely no business running routes. There's plenty of real WRs that are available in the draft, why would I waste a pick on a player who hasnt played the position? He's played QB, he's won 4 bowl games as a QB, he wants to be a QB. He needs to focus solely on being a QB.

do you think that him being just a QB would limit him?

i'm not saying that he can't or shouldn't be a "pure QB" but i do think that he could be much more than one and would be best utilized in a few different roles throughout the game. keep him on the field either lined up as a WR (keeping him in motion) or lined up in the backfield and used numerous ways there mainly to help confound the defense. have a more traditional QB back there for most of the time and have the defense struggle with which of the two QBs is going to be getting the ball.

if he wants to be a QB, it will likely be a few years before he can get a full time starting gig. if he plays in a more diverse role, he can get active a lot sooner and gradually get himself into a more prominent role as a leader on the field.

not sure if that makes sense or not.

[Squirrel]

do you think that him being just a QB would limit him?

i'm not saying that he can't or shouldn't be a "pure QB" but i do think that he could be much more than one and would be best utilized in a few different roles throughout the game. keep him on the field either lined up as a WR (keeping him in motion) or lined up in the backfield and used numerous ways there mainly to help confound the defense. have a more traditional QB back there for most of the time and have the defense struggle with which of the two QBs is going to be getting the ball.

if he wants to be a QB, it will likely be a few years before he can get a full time starting gig. if he plays in a more diverse role, he can get active a lot sooner and gradually get himself into a more prominent role as a leader on the field.

not sure if that makes sense or not.

It does but I can look at the other side too. If he is a multi postion player it takes away from his development as QB. He would be all over the field in TC or stuck with the WR's and not learning to be a NFL QB. I think that is major thing going on right now and he knows it so he is trying to get teams that will utilize him as a QB only to take him.

[King Taharqa]

do you think that him being just a QB would limit him?

I think if he wants to be a QB he needs to spend 100% of his time preparing to be a QB, like most do. That means working on his reads, spending time watching film, going over things with his QB coaches. Just getting on the field may be a quicker fix, but hurt him in the long run. I think spending time running routes and working on being a WR takes time away from learning to be a QB. If I want a management job I'm not gonna waste my time working as a janitor for some company because they're not quite ready for me to manage. I'm gonna find a company that believes in me as a manager and trains me and prepares me accordingly.