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Can Shula help us shut down Jacksonville's offense

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I was reading an article about Mike Shula in the Observer and the thought crossed my mind, will having Shula on our staff this year after serving as QB coach for the last 4 years in Jacksonville help us prepare for their offense?? He surely should know the philosophy and plays. He should also understand their tendencies and system.

Kotter their offensive coordinator is considered pretty good but they lack lots of passing weapons. Here is an article.

http://www.jaguars101.com/2011/06/26/12120/

I would think it does give us an advantage.

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If it was Garrard at QB, his insight might be more helpful than with Gabbert as far as tendencies, but if the philosophy hasn't changed, then it should be worth something to our defense. Especially understanding the blocking schemes used to make their run game so effective.

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I'd imagine he would have some input.

Players giving insider information about the opposing team I generally view as an overrated notion. Coaches are a different story. Shula should have a few good tidbits.

I know that Jacksonville will likely change some things especially for this game but with a pared down playbook for Gabbert I would think we should know exactly what they will do based on how they line up. I doubt Gabbert will be calling that many audibles. He really hasn't played that much with the 1s. Should be lots of short throws, screens and timing routes. I suspect we unleash the dogs and blitz a lot this week to see how Gabbert handles the pressure. He was not that great in college. I know folks are looking at 5 for 6 performance last week but most of that was in junk time after the game was decided and the Jets were playing loose.

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I was reading an article about Mike Shula in the Observer and the thought crossed my mind, will having Shula on our staff this year after serving as QB coach for the last 4 years in Jacksonville help us prepare for their offense?? He surely should know the philosophy and plays. He should also understand their tendencies and system.

Kotter their offensive coordinator is considered pretty good but they lack lots of passing weapons. Here is an article.

http://www.jaguars101.com/2011/06/26/12120/

I would think it does give us an advantage.

The only thing that is Shula can do to shut down Jax is find a stud DT. MJD is the only person that we have to worry about. Gabbert and the passing attack isn't worth losing sleep over. We just have to cover the TEs (rookie security blanket) and defend the run. Hopefully we are up to the task.

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he might know the playbook and koetter's tendencies. that's about it.

i've seen that they are opening up the playbook some, but that might be like jeff davidson opening up the playbook by adding pages 10 and 11.

i have heard that some of the plays they are adding is more downfield stuff. meh....

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he might know the playbook and koetter's tendencies. that's about it.

i've seen that they are opening up the playbook some, but that might be like jeff davidson opening up the playbook by adding pages 10 and 11.

i have heard that some of the plays they are adding is more downfield stuff. meh....

That would seem counterintuitive to start a rookie QB and open up the playbook and install more downfield passes. You would think they would do just the opposite, limit the playbook and give him shorter passes and quicker stuff to make it easier to complete passes and get in a rhythm. Plus if your two best weapons are tight ends, you would hardly put in more downfield plays unless you are talking about seam routes to the TEs. But those are already in the playbook from what I could see, Otherwise most folks use their tight ends underneath.

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that's essentially what we did, though.

i really don't think that it's anything more than them saying "hey! we gotz a smart QB, too!!!"

Actually we didn't open the playbook week one. We pared it down and had few hot reads, or audibles. We installed more of a downfield passing attack because of Steve Smith and the fact that Newton is actually more accurate on deep passes than the intermediate ones. After Newton has success, we opened it up some last week but it still is being installed.

I don't think those elements apply to Jacksonville. They have no deep threat, use TEs and running backs which would assume short passes. It isn't about being smart but how much repetition a player gets, and the talent around him. I would expect a lot of running this week from them with some play action and short passes. They might go deep a few times but expect us to blitz him a lot where he historically in college was horrible under pressure. If I remember correctly while Cam completed 70% of passes when blitzed, I believe with Gabbert it was more like 40%.

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They've scored 1 Td in two games, not sure how much shutting down needs to be done.
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the major thing is going to be MJD and he's tough to handle, but if we can use the same formula that other teams have used against us to shut down the run game, we should control theirs.

rivera said that the cards went after a rookie QB exactly the way he would have. stack the box and blitz constantly, shutting down all running lanes and you prevent them from doing much in the run game.

add to that if we can come out of the box scoring like we did last week, then they have to try to get the ball downfield to catch-up.

get ahead by a couple scores and that will be the best way to shut down the run game. you put tons of pressure on a rookies head that way as well. the jags aren't a team that can come from behind.

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