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Should Tebow success get under Cam's skin

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Actually, yes it is. You have just hit the nail in the head and if you only knew how true that actually is, I wouldn't be bitching as much. It's counter intuitive, but it is exactly 100% true backed up by every statistic imaginable.

If that's the case its the defense fault that offense scores less points than the other team.

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Hey nobody's bitching about Cam Newton being a rookie. Once again, I get that part. I just hate it when people try to put the blame on some other part of the team when that's the primary reason we're losing, while our defense has been the more efficient side of this team.
thats the dumbest poo I have seen in a while.its the offense fault that the defense give up 30 points a game.
Actually, yes it is. You have just hit the nail in the head and if you only knew how true that actually is, I wouldn't be bitching as much. It's counter intuitive, but it is exactly 100% true backed up by every statistic imaginable.

:lol: all of you arguing against this baffoon...realize that you are arguing against a brick wall that believes that it's the offenses fault that teams score on the defense.

you can't fix this.

you can't correct it.

you can't make it better.

you can't make him smarter.

it just won't happen.

he is a finished product full of stupid with access to the internet and a lot of numbers that he twists and turns to these long nonsensical posts using a lot of words that i just can't believe you waste time reading and responding to.

you are seriously only wasting your time dealing with this clown.

find something better to do.

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Hey nobody's bitching about Cam Newton being a rookie. Once again, I get that part. I just hate it when people try to put the blame on some other part of the team when that's the primary reason we're losing, while our defense has been the more efficient side of this team.

:lol:, :out:

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:lol: all of you arguing against this baffoon...realize that you are arguing against a brick wall that believes that it's the offenses fault that teams score on the defense.

you can't fix this.

you can't correct it.

you can't make it better.

you can't make him smarter.

it just won't happen.

he is a finished product full of stupid with access to the internet and a lot of numbers that he twists and turns to these long nonsensical posts using a lot of words that i just can't believe you waste time reading and responding to.

you are seriously only wasting your time dealing with this clown.

find something better to do.

LOL. You have about as much football logic and sense as a brick.

Of course it's the offense's fault. The defense can't turn over the ball. They don't have it. They can only take it away and give it to the defense. They can only help an offense out.

An offense can turn it over and kill a defense. I know this is difficult for you to figure this one out, but do try.

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Hey nobody's bitching about Cam Newton being a rookie. Once again, I get that part. I just hate it when people try to put the blame on some other part of the team when that's the primary reason we're losing, while our defense has been the more efficient side of this team.

you're joking right!!!??? First off, i will be the FIRST to say that Newton DOES deserve SOME blame for the losses, but only some. for example, the Vikings game, those fumbles were costly considering where they were, BUT the defense has NOT been efficient. Example, Chris Johnson has been off this year, but when he plays Carolina, he gets 100 yards. the other team's tight ends usually abuse Carolina's defense, sorry, but the defense is as big a part of the losing as Cam is, but the biggest issue is special teams, i really feel like i am watching San Diego because of how bad the special teams have been. we dont have good returns, we give up big returns and we miss field goals.

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I've seen a opponent totally shut down The Golden Calf of Bristol, have yet to see anyone totally shut down Cam...

like i wrote, when it comes to The Golden Calf of Bristol, he's not there as a passer, i call him very raw. the best thing he does though is run and i like his vision as a runner.

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you're joking right!!!??? First off, i will be the FIRST to say that Newton DOES deserve SOME blame for the losses, but only some. for example, the Vikings game, those fumbles were costly considering where they were, BUT the defense has NOT been efficient. Example, Chris Johnson has been off this year, but when he plays Carolina, he gets 100 yards. the other team's tight ends usually abuse Carolina's defense, sorry, but the defense is as big a part of the losing as Cam is, but the biggest issue is special teams, i really feel like i am watching San Diego because of how bad the special teams have been. we dont have good returns, we give up big returns and we miss field goals.

And you're entitled to your opinion, but when it comes to the most inefficient side of our football team, it has without a doubt been the offense. But after 9 games this is where we currently stand. It's actually been a lot like this all year.

Estimated efficiency rating at league average schedule and turnover/takeaway avg:

(3.8 points/50 yards or 15.67 ypp for an average offense)

Carolina Panthers

Offense: 18.3 Rank 24

Defense: 14.53 Rank 20

Special teams have been bad no doubt, but not nearly as inefficient as the offense. At an even turnover margin, the defense simply does a better job at stopping opponents than the offense does at scoring. And this makes since if you consider the fact they have done this in just about every game after our offense has given them the lead. But our offense, can't score to win the game, even though our defense gives them more chances than anybody.

Take a look:

Red-zone scoring scoring attempts(TD):

6 th Carolina 3.7

Red-zone scoring percentage(TD)

20 Carolina 45.45%

Points per field goal attempts:

26 Carolina 2.3

Red-zone opponent scoring attempts:

23 Carolina 3.4

Red-zone defense(TD's) :

21 Carolina 54.84%

The offense has been equally as bad at scoring as the defense as stopping teams from scoring, but the offense has had more tries than 26 other teams in the league. And score less points. This makes you a very bad and inefficient offense. There's no defense in the NFL that could help this offense win their games with the way they are playing. Not even the Lions who force almost a fumble per game. They can't make up for the amount of lost scoring opportunities. No defense currently playing int the NFL can make up for their screw ups.

Just a fact. But ours has probably done one of the best jobs at trying to keep them in the game despite their inefficiency. If our D had just an averagely efficient offense, they would be top 10 in the league.

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i still put more blame on special teams and i still dont think the defense has been that great. they arent awful, no, but they have issues stopping the run and TEs. i mean if the defense was efficent then Chris Johnson would've had less than 100 yards on the ground. the offense hasnt been the best it can be, no, but they arent the main reason for losing in my book. they are keeping us in the game, if we didnt have Newton and had The Golden Calf of Bristol, unless we built an offense good for him, we lose by more points in all the games played.

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Actually, yes it is. You have just hit the nail in the head and if you only knew how true that actually is, I wouldn't be bitching as much. It's counter intuitive, but it is exactly 100% true backed up by every statistic imaginable.

No. It isn't. Not even close. Not even a smidgen of close. Not backed up by any statistic.

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No. It isn't. Not even close. Not even a smidgen of close. Not backed up by any statistic.

The above says so. Just cause you keep repeating doesn't make it true.

45% red-zone scoring percentage, 20th in the league versus 6th in attempts means you suck at scoring and you are incredibly inefficient.

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LOL. You have about as much football logic and sense as a brick.

Of course it's the offense's fault. The defense can't turn over the ball. They don't have it. They can only take it away and give it to the defense. They can only help an offense out.

An offense can turn it over and kill a defense. I know this is difficult for you to figure this one out, but do try.

... If you would take a break from raging at Cam because you're mad about... whatever, you wouldn't make such embarrassing Freudian slips.

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