Cam's argument for ROTY

[smitty_89]

I know that we have discussed this many times and will continue to discuss it but I saw this post on reddit and thought I would share. (credit to allsecretsknown on reddit.com)

Cam Newton: 239/392, 61%, 3093 yds, 7.89 YPA, 12 TDs, 14 INTs, 81.1 Rating (54.5 QBR, 18th)

Rushing: 86att 464 yds, 5.4 YPC, 10 TDs, 1 FUM

Total Offense: 3557 yds, 22 total TDs, 15 total TOs.

Andy Dalton: 218/363, 60%, 2059 yds, 6.91 YPA, 16 TDs, 12 INTs, 81.6 rating (47.0, 24th)

Rushing: 23att 81 yds, 3.5 YPC, 1 TD, 2 FUMs

Total Offense: 2140 yds, 17 total TDs, 14 total TOs.

DIFFERENTIAL: +1417 yds, +5 total TDs, +0.98 YPA, +1.9 YPC, -1 total TO, -0.5 rating (+7.5 QBR)

And the respective impact of each player on their offensive efficiency (courtesy, Football Outsiders):

2010 Bengals: 17th

2011 Bengals: 12th (+5)

2010 Panthers: 32nd

2011 Panthers: 6th (+24, +6 vs. 2011 Bengals)

Why the difference in their W-L records?

Bengals Defensive Efficiency: 15th

Panthers Defensive Efficiency: 32nd (-17)

Bengals Special Teams: 7th

Panthers Special Teams: 30th (-23)

The Panthers also average much worse starting field position on their drives, meaning that in order to score Cam has to go further downfield than Dalton does.

Bengals Average Drive Length: 26.81 yds

Panthers Average Drive Length: 34.99 yds (+8.18 yds)

[PantherFan52]

It's really not even an argument. It will be unanimous.

[jtnc]

Plus our ypg from last year to this year is the largest jump in NFL history.

[smitty_89]

It's really not even an argument. It will be unanimous.

Yea I know. Cam also has greater potential, athletic ability, and the intangibles...the "it" factor.

[Lout]

You are a racist if you don't vote for Cam.

[Mr. Scot]

Being up for Rookie of the Week pretty much every week is likely all the argument he needs.

I have a hard time imagining it going to anyone else, and I think I can say that objectively without being a homer.

[Jangler]

I don't need no numbers and formulas to tell me Cam gets ROTY. The rushing TDs puts him over the top.

[rayzor]

von miller is giving him a legit run for ROTY and cam is far from a lock for that, but as far as OROTY...should be cam hands down.

[Peppers90 NC]

von miller is giving him a legit run for ROTY and cam is far from a lock for that, but as far as OROTY...should be cam hands down.

Miller is playing at a level as high as Cam, but QB>>>OLB

[rayzor]

Miller is playing at a level as high as Cam, but QB>>>OLB

agreed. not sure they take that into consideration, though.

[Peppers90 NC]

isn't the roy divided into offense and dfense anyway?

[The Saltman]

Isn't it always offensive and defensive roty?

[smitty_89]

Isn't it always offensive and defensive roty?

yes. every year there is an offensive and defensive. No Overall...at least not from the Associated Press (which is considered official)

[The_Mango55]

Beat me to it.

There's no overall ROY award.