re: former panther OG evan mathis...

[rayzor]

i'd keep otah around for depth next year. he's cheap. if his head isn't in the game and someone else can be more reliable then we let him go, but he's got to much talent to just cut outright.

we do need to move forward as if he won't be around, though. same with TD. both guys should be kept (and restructured where necessary) as depth because of their talent, but we do need to replace them as starters.

imo, bell just isn't going to cut it.

[Cyberjag]

I can't believe that all the huddle talent scouts were wrong about this guy!

[Mr. Scot]

There were two linemen who regularly beat everyone else in post practice sprints....Julius Peppers and Evan Mathis. He had all the tools....just couldn't do what the coaches wanted him to do, I guess.

As I recall, we had Mike Maser as our line coach when he was here. Maser was said to have been pretty rough on Mathis. His overall results as an OL coach weren't so hot.

I wouldn't mind having Mathis back. Wouldn't expect it though.

[frash.exe]

from what i remember during his time here he was terrible

[SamTheRam]

As I recall, we had Mike Maser as our line coach when he was here. Maser was said to have been pretty rough on Mathis. His overall results as an OL coach weren't so hot.

I wouldn't mind having Mathis back. Wouldn't expect it though.

Mike Wahle called him Ogre. He was not an ogreachiever, though.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I can't blame Hurney or management for this one. Evan Mathis was garbage as a Panther.

[Cyberjag]

Happy memories... :)

Mathis was drafted in 2005, and was our starting guard in 2006. The line that year was Gross/Wahle/Hangartner/Mathis/Bridges. Wharton was injured, back then he was our left tackle. Justin Hartwig was supposed to be our center, but he was injured too. In 2007, they both came back and Bridges move to Guard, putting Mathis back on the bench.

According to FootballOutsiders.com, the 2006 line was 24th in run blocking, and 16th in pass protection. However, in runs inside the tackle to the right side, they were 8th in the league. So maybe he showed promise, but not enough to beat out Bridges in 2007 and ultimately not enough to stick in 2008 (released in final cuts). He was signed and cut by the Dolphins in 2008 too.

Some people just take longer than others to develop, huh?

[panthers55]

So how many sacks has Hangartner allowed??

[Urrymonster]

So, he does real good, and the Eagles are all like pfft let's just let him go?

It's what the Bengals did...

[SauceBoss]

He was cut b/c he got no push, horrible at run blocking, while we were running team. Things might be different now, but I don't see this as an upgrade over Handgartner.

[rayzor]

So how many sacks has Hangartner allowed??

according to stats.com he's only allowed 1.5. bell has 3.5 as does gross. wharton has 1. kalil has .5.

i'd like to see where all the sacks are coming from.

[SauceBoss]

watch the titan game. Blitzes up the middle

[Mr. Scot]

When he was let go, I agreed with the decision.

If he got a second look next year, I'd agree with that too.

[Cyberjag]

It may be worth mentioning, in 2007 we switched offensive coordinators, and offensive systems. Davidson came in looking to do more zone blocking and power running, and his scheme did not have the same emphasis on pass protection as Henning's did. That could have made a difference in why Mathis was demoted and then cut.