QB Rating for Week 13

[Stroupe-a-loop]

I'd take the Football Outsiders DVOA over QBR if I were going to use a metric that get biased depending on situation. ESPN is the McDonalds of sports.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb

For those that haven't seen it.

[Ruff]

The only problem I see with the Total QBR is this, only ESPN produces those numbers. I'm interested to see if another media outlet, like NFL Network, produces a Total QBR, if it would be similar.

I totally agree that it shows plays that matter versus plays that don't, but, ESPN can definitely be biased. Panthro bringing up that The Golden Calf of Bristol's QBR was higher than Rodgers' that game, shows that ESPN can definitely lean one way or the other.

[TheRealDeal]

The only problem I see with the Total QBR is this, only ESPN produces those numbers. I'm interested to see if another media outlet, like NFL Network, produces a Total QBR, if it would be similar.

I totally agree that it shows plays that matter versus plays that don't, but, ESPN can definitely be biased. Panthro bringing up that The Golden Calf of Bristol's QBR was higher than Rodgers' that game, shows that ESPN can definitely lean one way or the other.

That was only one game and if you can't even fathom how scoring the same amount of touchdowns in half the time is pretty impressive, the debate is over. What The Golden Calf of Bristol did in that game was special and clutch and all those other things.

I'm not upset over one game of it being arguably wrong or right. It tries to take into account things that matter, unless you go back and watch all of Aaron's throws, take note of the situation, the YAC (which they are 3rd in the NFL in), all you are doing is looking at it from a QB rating standpoint which is what this improves upon.

ARod is the clear season leader and that clearly reflects reality.

[Peppers90 NC]

ratings/schmatings.... overall production Cam>>>>>Matty Moore

[La Pantera]

Cam>Matt Moore

[MadHatter]

Whoa, calm down girl!

It's the 30th ranked defense in the NFL! LMAO!

Would that be the same Bucs team that beat that Falcon's ass in Week 3...or the Saints ass in Week 6?

I thought so.....now sit down, shut the fug up, and watch us beat your ass down on Sunday.

[MadHatter]

Would you guys PLEASE stop quoting TRD in your responses? I would be eternally grateful. If you do, I will never have to see anything this pathetic little tool ever posts again.

Ignore feature is SUCH a beautiful thing.

[hitman80]

Like I said before, in the old system, 9 yards is 9 yards, in the new one, 9 yards on 3rd and 6 is better than 9 yards on 3rd and 15, which every fan knows. It also takes into account a lot of other things.

So a 1 yard pass to a RB that runs for 8 yards on a 3rd and 6 is better than a 9 yard pass to a WR on a 3rd and 10?

[Jangler]

Cam>

fixed

[Disinfranchised]

Whoa, calm down girl!

It's the 30th ranked defense in the NFL! LMAO!

Cam Newton is a name that sends chills down the back of any true Falcon fan, and will be doing so for many years to come.

[HoFBound90]

The problem was, it wasn't an accepted form of statistics.

Too bad this does account for rushing and TDs...but carry on being uninformed.

you seriously have to be a troll because no one can be this stupid.

[Wesmesss]

these threads are for the oblivious. its been apparent that cam has been a top 5 qb this year regardless of category you speak of (except wins). this "oh cam is so good" realization every week is getting old.

Cam is legit. And hes a panther. Realize it, love it, accept it. total qbr rating thread not necessary for persuading

[TheRealDeal]

ratings/schmatings.... overall production Cam>>>>>Matty Moore

lol

So a 1 yard pass to a RB that runs for 8 yards on a 3rd and 6 is better than a 9 yard pass to a WR on a 3rd and 10?

Yes.

[PantherDrivel]

So a 1 yard pass to a RB that runs for 8 yards on a 3rd and 6 is better than a 9 yard pass to a WR on a 3rd and 10?

Well first of all one would result in a first down and the second example would mean you're punting so yes. But why begin placing different, subjective, weighted values on something the quarterbacks themselves have little say over in the firs place? Most quarterbacks don't decide what plays to run.

Passer rating still has a better correlation to winning records than Total QB rating. So what's the point of using something that's worse than what we have already? Passer rating is a better measurement of what the quarterback is supposed to do, while Total QB rating measures overall production value to your team. That doesn't necessarily make you a better quarterback. It can actually at times reward bad quarterbacks who wait to long, can't complete their primary reads and opt for less efficient ways of moving the ball. Rushing after the pocket collapses. While the resulting play can be positive, there's no telling how much more it would have helped the team had they completed the pass they were supposed to in the first place.