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5'9 isn't a HUGE deal to me. I prefer my CBs to be 5'10 or higher, but if they have good technique and play good coverage and can jump decently I don't see it as a huge problem. Most passes don't come in at 7' anyway, they're usually not much higher than the WR's head. Only times it's really a problem is jump balls and fades thrown into the end zone.

Munnerlyn's height isn't as detrimental as his inability to actually stick with his guy or read passes or play CB.

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the point of the thread was not Boykin, but the top 10 players according to each post of players that stood out at Senior Bowl

Boykin was just coincidental info because Panthers were spending time with him. GBN report mentions about 25 players

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Guys, I'm telling you, I don't think Coples will fall to us, but IF hes there...I don't see us passing on him. Could be the best pass rusher in the draft. I get the 'character/motor' concerns. I don't see that being an issue here.

Still early, we'll find out if they are interested in the coming months with the Combine and Individual workouts.

The Giants are in the super bowl, and they have (basically) 4 starting DEs and 4 DTs. Copy cat league. We have 1 DE as good as their top 3.

They do not have great DBs or even LBs. Front 4.

The only way I see Jax passing on Coples is if Blackmon is still on the board. I think St. Louis will trade with Cleveland or Washington, taking Blackmon if he is there.

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