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Two coaching gaffes inside last 2 minutes

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The only mistake was the drive before the Giant TD, the Pats were trying to run out the clock rather than put the game put of reach. This may work for some teams but trying to rely on your run game after it being so inconsistent is not a good idea.

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The Pats figured it out with one minute to go and let em score. If they had let them score at 2 minute warning instead, they would have had an extra timeout and a full minute extra and Brady would have probably won the game.

I still don't get why people keep saying Belichick shouldn't have let him score. Which do you think has a better chance of happening:

- An 18 yard field goal being missed/blocked/botched snap (shorter than an extra point and XPs have a 99% conversion rate)

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- Tom Brady going 80 yards in 53 seconds with 1 timeout

If you don't think Belichick was right, you don't really get football. The only people questioning Belichick at the party I was at were women and the guys that didn't follow football that closely.

This is why you aren't a coach.

Stop the Giants. Get a turnover. You flat-out win. No need for a 80 yard drive in under a minute.

People are jaded by late-game miracles.

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"Stop the Giants, get a turnover."

I will be sure to send this on to the Pats front office, as they should have called this late in the game, especially the "get a turnover" part.

Ok. Maybe next time you can forward a strategy called "let the other team score so Tom Brady can attempt to to drive the field in under a minute." I wonder if that works.

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I've seen the "let them score, get the ball back" strategy used a couple of times in postseason games now. Can't recall a single time when I've seen it work.

Just for the sake of pointing something out to Mr. Stirs.... have you ever seen stopping the other team work?

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Just for the sake of pointing something out to Mr. Stirs.... have you ever seen stopping the other team work?

The whole "let them score and take the lead" thing is at least partially predicated on the notion that you can't stop them.

I get the theory. And yeah, it can go wrong the other way too. I've just seen this particular strategy fail more times than I've seen it succeed (honestly can't remember any; maybe someone else does).

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I've seen the "let them score, get the ball back" strategy used a couple of times in postseason games now. Can't recall a single time when I've seen it work.

Extremely misleading because it's low odds either way. If you're the Patriots, you have to think you have a 99% chance of losing if you don't let them score because they run the clock down and kick the 18 yard field goal as time expires. And you probably have a 90% chance of losing by letting them score and getting the ball back at the 20 needing a TD with 1 TO with 53 seconds left. I still like having a 10-20% chance of winning as opposed to the 1% chance myself.

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This is why you aren't a coach.

Stop the Giants. Get a turnover. You flat-out win. No need for a 80 yard drive in under a minute.

People are jaded by late-game miracles.

Yes, brilliant. Because I would do the exact same thing one of the best NFL coaches in history would have done, I clearly know nothing about football.

So you say stop the Giants and get a turnover. So what's your plan? They're in extremely easy field goal range and you have 1 timeout left and under 2 minutes left. What's your plan to stopping them? Your only hope is to block the kick or strip the ball on a running play. Both are *extremely* low odds. Your other option is to put the ball in Brady's hands late in a Super Bowl where you've seen him get the job done before. Odds are still low, but let's stop playing patty cake here, they were much greater than Tynes botching an extra point length of a field goal or forcing a fumble.

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