Minter says Players were rewarded for Game changing plays..

[micnificent28]

I can't link to the article on charlotte observer i'm mobile,so if someone could that would be great. Basically, he states players were rewarded(paid) for making game changing plays.

Not sure how the league would view this. Could we be fined? I'm not sure...discuss

[megadeth078]

game changing plays can include interceptions, sacks, and fumble recoveries.

no.

[PhillyB]

that is monetary incentives for good performance.

the saints ran monetary incentives for dirty plays.

the difference in the lockerroom and on-field culture represented by either one is staggering.

[Keep Pounding]

game changing plays can include interceptions, sacks, and fumble recoveries.

no.

Those type of pools are happening on every team, Sacks, INT's, FF, FR, Safety, most tackles, Pass deflections, whatever. After this season, most likely all that would end for the most part.

What the Saints were doing, was criminal, trying to hurt people on purpose, out side parties (Mike Orienstein) putting up money to injure certain high profile players, all the cheap shots (half not flagged), and so on is what is getting the SCUMAINTS in trouble.

[Mother Grabber]

Those kinds of incentives are written into their contracts, aren't they?

[micnificent28]

Those kinds of incentives are written into their contracts, aren't they?

The kind he's talking about came from other players out of pocket. It shouldn't be a problem but, The NFL is on a witch hunt now so i thought it would be worth discussing.

[Cat'sGrowl]

This is what the endless droves of Aints fans down here don't seem to get. Rewarding a player (more often than not from another player) for a sack or an interception is one thing. But when your GM, your Hc and other various members of your coaching staff and a convicted felon who the league specifically told your organization to stay away from are pooling money to reward players for injuring other players, wellllllllll it's a completely different animal.

[carpanfan96]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/07/3075244/minter-players-had-no-bounties.html

A pair of former Carolina Panthers defenders say Panthers' players would reward teammates for big plays, but it was not the bounty system the New Orleans Saints are accused of using that paid players for hits that knocked opponents out of games.

Mike Minter, who played safety for the Panthers in 1997-2006, said during his years in Charlotte veteran players would offer cash bonuses for momentum-changing plays, particularly on special teams.

Former safety Sean Considine, released last fall after four games during his only season with the Panthers, wasn't with the team nearly as long as Minter. But Considine had the same experience as Minter in terms of an incentive program.

[Swarly]

if the rewards system was set up by coaches, and they have documents to prove it, then yes. the Panthers could get in trouble for it.

the thing that makes the Saints situation so sketch isn't the bounty thing, all teams have stuff like that set up. you can deny it all you want but all the players coming out saying it happens just proves it, maybe not injury bounties which is fuging dirty, but interceptions/fumbles/etc, yep. it's such a big deal because it was set up by a coach and they have tens of thousands of documents to prove it.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

mike minter has become quite annoying since his playing days

[Keep Pounding]

I can't link to the article on charlotte observer i'm mobile,so if someone could that would be great. Basically, he states players were rewarded(paid) for making game changing plays.

Not sure how the league would view this. Could we be fined? I'm not sure...discuss

I do believe some players contracts, they have incentive clauses. But I don't think it is for game to game performance, total stats at end of year, like get X amount of rushing yards, or X amount of sacks and get x amount of money extra. But I don't believe it is game by game incentives.

[Guest Irv]

Theres a huge difference between trying to break a guys leg on purpose for $1000 and getting a free steak dinner for a key interception.

[PhillyB]

mike minter has become quite annoying since his playing days

how so?

[fieryprophet]

All teams run "reward" systems. ALL TEAMS (I wouldn't be surprised if we ran one last season. . .although it wouldn't have paid very much :P)

The difference is 1.) it's almost always player-led (no outside contributions), 2.) completely informal (no coach "manages" the pot), 3.) rewards legal momentum-shifting plays (INTs, fumble recoveries, etc.) and 4.) DOESN'T HAVE A PAPER TRAIL.

The Saints screwed up on all of these by running a coach-managed bounty system that rewarded illegal behavior using outside funding and documented their participation. The mere fact that got busted for this is incompetence on an unprecedented level, especially considering they were given a long-standing warning from the league to cut it out.

The scenarios are really not similar in any way.