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9. Carolina Panthers

* Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis

A pick I'm sticking with. Carolina couldn't stop the run last year while rotating rookies on the interior. They need to find a force that can create stops. Poe has freakish athleticism that will inspire Haloti Ngata comparisons, but what I like here is the versatility. He's not just a 3-4 nose tackle -- he can be a dominant force in the 4-3 as well. Carolina could use a piece in the passing game, but they'll score points. Defense has to be a priority, starting up front.

Wrap it up Coplesailures

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Poe is not going to have a Suh like rookie season, he is not worth a 1st round pick in the top ten, that fool is a tool, if our run DEF got better with Shirley, Neblett and Kearse, I don't see DT as a need, especially when we started 2 rookies for 10-11 games..

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Poe is not going to have a Suh like rookie season, he is not worth a 1st round pick in the top ten, that fool is a tool, if our run DEF got better with Shirley, Neblett and Kearse, I don't see DT as a need, especially when we started 2 rookies for 10-11 games..

we still gave up 5.17 yards a carrie when they were end so don't have a party to soon for them.

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If we pick Poe it will be because we think he can be a 3 technique guy and play some 5 technique as well. We will not be using him as a nose tackle but more like we used Kris Jenkins. I could see us going with Coples as well. Both would help us out in a 1 gap attacking style.

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If we pick Poe it will be because we think he can be a 3 technique guy and play some 5 technique as well. We will not be using him as a nose tackle but more like we used Kris Jenkins. I could see us going with Coples as well. Both would help us out in a 1 gap attacking style.

5 tech (o_O )

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we still gave up 5.17 yards a carrie when they were end so don't have a party to soon for them.

You have to temper that with the fact that the 5.17 was also a function of a failure by the linebackers and safeties to contain the run to the outsides and stop it for a short gain once they reached the second level. We were actually decent up the middle but bottom of the league once the runner broke through the line. That really didn't improve the whole year.

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You have to temper that with the fact that the 5.17 was also a function of a failure by the linebackers and safeties to contain the run to the outsides and stop it for a short gain once they reached the second level. We were actually decent up the middle but bottom of the league once the run broke through the line. That really didn't improve the whole year.

Do you have the premium DVOA/PFF for that data? Basic DVOA has us at 32nd against the rush.

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Yeah when we go to a 3-4 look at times the rushers will widen out to the 5 technique spot. Poe could be effective coming off the edge when we go to a nickel or dime package.

Well yeah, but Rivera/McDermott preferred speed last year in base 3 lineman sets. That's why they'd move Johnson to the 1/2 tech, then have Hardy/random DE flanking.

I don't think you want poe lined up over tackles but it could be interesting. You'd at least seal the edge like a boss.

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