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Gregg Williams Urged Saints To Injure 49Ers

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CosmoGirl Newbie

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LOL say the Panthers are playing the Broncos and Payton is still bothered by a sore neck. what do you sweet Panther fans want your defense to do??? Give him a hug?

I want them to hit him hard but not injure him. You don't want a player's career or life in jeopardy/ended because of a hit.

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LOL say the Panthers are playing the Broncos and Payton is still bothered by a sore neck. what do you sweet Panther fans want your defense to do??? Give him a hug?

No, I want to see him get hit and get hit often.

Difference between my comment and Gregg Williams is I would like to see Petyon Manning walk away from the game. Williams wants him carted off.

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I read it. The quote is insinuating that the Giants too are guilty of some unethical play. I agree that it's part of the game.

Head hit's are against the rules already but I see nothing wrong with hitting a guy extra hard in a legal fashion knowing he he's had concussions. I see that as separate than what the Saints were discussing with ACLs and such.

there is nothing wrong with that. if ur playing with concussions ur at serious risk. its a dangerous game.

making the opposing team scared to touch the ball for fear of getting cracked is part of football. aiming for critical joints in attempts to destroy players careers is entirely different.

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I rather put you on the football field and see how much you would like your neck messed with... Anyone who has ever played a sport knows there is a unwritten rule you dont try to hurt people. Thats just douchey and poo will come back on you. You take out there QB they come back and take out your ACL. Just the way things go.

Sorry but thats just not true. If an opposing player is hurting (ribs, back, shoulder, whatever) you go after him. I've heard many, many pro players say the same. I've heard NBA players say when an opposing player has a sore hand or back that they try to rough him up a bit to get him out the game. Happens all the time.

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You don't see this poo in baseball. Hell no pitcher wants to play vs albert pujols. You don't see pitchers attempting to throw 100 mph fastballs at dangerous hitters to end their career. sure they'll send it right past their eyes, scare the poo out of them, make em back off the plate.

only sociopaths do the kind of stuff the gregg williams was sanctioning.

Roger Clemens

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How many folks remember Michael Bates getting knocked out an a kick return in the 2002 playoff game against the Cowboys?

Remember the first people to run and check on him? That'd be John Kasay and his old Panther teammates.

That's the kind of players I want. Real men. Guys like Thomas Davis, who can play the game and bust people in the mouth without the desire to injure or end someone else's career.

The people who want to hurt someone and knock them out of the game so they don't have to face them anymore are just plain cowards.

Yeah because Thomas Davis would never purposely take down an opposing RB by the left ankle which happens to have a bit more tape on it than the other one right? Rainbows, Butterflies and Unicorns....

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Payton, Loomis and Joe Vitt are all attempting to paint Gregg Williams as "a rogue coach" in their appeals (link)

Doubt it works, especially given the involvement of Payton's agent, Mike Ornstein.

Brings up an interesting possibility though.

A while back, someone - maybe Michael David Smith, not sure - pondered whether Williams might turn "states evidence" as a way of trying to avoid being permanently banned by the NFL. If so, Williams could point the finger at players, at Payton, at Loomis, heck maybe even at Tom Benson.

Would he have any credibility? Arguable.

Would he be listened to, though? I'd have to think yes.

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Yeah because Thomas Davis would never purposely take down an opposing RB by the left ankle which happens to have a bit more tape on it than the other one right? Rainbows, Butterflies and Unicorns....

Read for yourself...

“I don't agree with intentionally trying to injure another player, especially after sitting out due to injury,” Davis tweeted. “You have to work way to hard to make it in this league to have some idiot trying to make $100 end your career.”

Davis continued with a couple of additional tweets.

“I had an unfortunate incident my rookie year that ended up causing another player who was also a rookie his career and that's not a good feeling,” he posted. “but I'm ok with that bc that's the nature of the game and I wasn't trying to do it.

“Don't get me wrong I do hit people for it to hurt, but never to injure.”

Thomas Davis comments on 'Bountygate'

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You don't see this poo in baseball. Hell no pitcher wants to play vs albert pujols. You don't see pitchers attempting to throw 100 mph fastballs at dangerous hitters to end their career. sure they'll send it right past their eyes, scare the poo out of them, make em back off the plate.

only sociopaths do the kind of stuff the gregg williams was sanctioning.

Ubildo Jiminez was suspended last week for doing just that in a spring training game. A dozen or more are suspended each year for intentionally drilling guys. If they weren't trying to inflict pain, the would hit em with a curve and not a 95 mph. heater to the head or back which is what they always do. Once again...part of the game.

But I agree that Williams has sociapathetic tendencies. Guy has issues.

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Payton, Loomis and Joe Vitt are all attempting to paint Gregg Williams as "a rogue coach" in their appeals (link)

Doubt it works, especially given the involvement of Payton's agent, Mike Ornstein.

Brings up an interesting possibility though.

A while back, someone - maybe Michael David Smith, not sure - pondered whether Williams might turn "states evidence" as a way of trying to avoid being permanently banned by the NFL. If so, Williams could point the finger at players, at Payton, at Loomis, heck maybe even at Tom Benson.

Would he have any credibility? Arguable.

Would he be listened to, though? I'd have to think yes.

I hope they all get prosecuted. It's organized crime. Sanctioned battery for money. How could anyone not prosecute them?

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I am supposed to be surprised he didn't say he agreed with Bountygate? He hits people to hurt them. Usually when I am hurt I am injured.

Look, I am fairly certain Davis is not dirty and plays the game the right way but you damn sure know that if Michael Vick and his cracked ribs comes scrambling out of the pocket headed towards Davis, he is going to purposely target his chest as hard as he can to make him think twice about doing it again. Same with a taped up ankle...a player is going to step on the field and try to play injured....fair game.

Ever wonder why when players have hurt ankles a lot of time they will tape up both of them so other players can't tell which is which in the bottom of a pile?

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