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Coaches around the league discussing the unorthodox QB's. A lot of coaches high on Cam, RG3, The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Also I love Ron Rivera's outlook on College QB's, he mentions how College is ahead of the NFL, with the spread offense, and that QB's in College are more prepared because they are making all the throws, 30-40 passes a game, that a lot of College QB's are making all the throws, but its about the decision making.

Its a lot of snippets of a lot of coaches discussing different things around the NFL, something of interest during this painful offseason.

Coaches discuss RG# vs Luck, Best Coaching Advice, Challenge Flag etiquette, Talent vs Chemistry, The Golden Calf of Bristol, Unorthodox QB's, Greenbay QB tree, Sure Thing and 2012 Hall of Fame Class.

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Fox was only in one video, thats some funny poo.

- welll ya know . . Its the type thing where, ya know, you just do wha you have to and uhh you know. . . it is what it is.

- wtf was that? we cant use that. Whats he lalking about, The Golden Calf of Bristol or ham sandwhiches? i cant tell

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Also I love Ron Rivera's outlook on College QB's, he mentions how College is ahead of the NFL, with the spread offense, and that QB's in College are more prepared because they are making all the throws, 30-40 passes a game, that a lot of College QB's are making all the throws, but its about the decision making.

i've been feeling like this for a while.

many have kept running on and on about how the spread won't work in the NFL, meanwhile the patriots are setting NFL records with it, the cardinals got to the superbowl running it, the Saints* have been using it and dominating on offense, the eagles got a respectable offense again when they abandoned the WCO for a spread that fit vick, and the list grows and grows.

people said the run option wouldn't work in the pros because pro defenses are too fast and too smart. well...it's working and we'll be seeing more teams try and duplicate it. crap...we'll even see andrew luck run more spread in the pros than most thinking he was above it thought possible.

QBs are taking more snaps out of the shotgun than probably ever before and will continue to do it, despite it not being "pro-style".

college is paving the way for the pros, which is a shame but that's what happens when the bulk of the coaches are resistant to change of any kind and like/stick to the old tried and proven methods.

shanny is just one of a few old timer coaches who realizes that you've got to change up and adjust to the new football climate. that kind of dinosaur will live on for a while if they can adapt. the ones that can't go extinct.

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i've been feeling like this for a while.

many have kept running on and on about how the spread won't work in the NFL, meanwhile the patriots are setting NFL records with it, the cardinals got to the superbowl running it, the Saints** have been using it and dominating on offense, the eagles got a respectable offense again when they abandoned the WCO for a spread that fit vick, and the list grows and grows.

people said the run option wouldn't work in the pros because pro defenses are too fast and too smart. well...it's working and we'll be seeing more teams try and duplicate it. crap...we'll even see andrew luck run more spread in the pros than most thinking he was above it thought possible.

QBs are taking more snaps out of the shotgun than probably ever before and will continue to do it, despite it not being "pro-style".

college is paving the way for the pros, which is a shame but that's what happens when the bulk of the coaches are resistant to change of any kind and like/stick to the old tried and proven methods.

shanny is just one of a few old timer coaches who realizes that you've got to change up and adjust to the new football climate. that kind of dinosaur will live on for a while if they can adapt. the ones that can't go extinct.

I have to agree, also I think it is the Media that proclaims that the spread will not work in the NFL, but as you mention several high powered offenses are running the spread, and being very successful at it also.

The run option is another wrinkle that a lot of media proclaims that want work, but everybody in the league know The Golden Calf of Bristol can't throw, and teams week after week, got beat by the run option The Golden Calf of Bristol was running.

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