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The actual reason Armanti is on the team...

Zod

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The issue is whether he deserves another year or not. He went from horrible to no mistakes in one year. So granted, the floor was very low, but the rate of progress is pretty impressive and IMO means we're better off seeing what we have in another year than carrying a 9th OL or DB that we didn't draft.

Lowest punt return yards in the NFL with no turnovers is going to start to look appealing if Adams has trouble with ball security.

He went from horrible to the leagues worst return man? That doesn't actually count as progress....leagues worst no matter the angle you view from.

Adams is a straight up playmaker....he isn't a Mark Jones. If you choose to go with a playmaker....they will give you some errors. That goes for all positions. Smitty, Cam, etc....scoring geared playmakers will have some fug ups.

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He went from horrible to the leagues worst return man? That doesn't actually count as progress....leagues worst no matter the angle you view from.

Adams is a straight up playmaker....he isn't a Mark Jones. If you choose to go with a playmaker....they will give you some errors. That goes for all positions. Smitty, Cam, etc....scoring geared playmakers will have some fug ups.

Dude? Do you read what you post? AE did improve drastically last year as to catching the ball. Just because his return yardage does not meet your satisfaction, you call him lousy. The best PR only get 5 or so more yards than AE. Is that extra 5 yards really that important? With our O? Only to you, and a few others.

Armanti lead the league with 0 muffs. What part of that do you have a problem with? So what the return yards were minimal? He never cost us a possession. Whereas, Adams has 4 turnovers in four games. Yeah, that will turn some heads. The wrong way.

Ask Sproles, or Tolbert, or any of 20 playmakers that do not put the ball on the ground. Naming a few guys, then saying playmakers make mistakes, is exactly how you make a point. Using your own logic as a fact. Not a bad way to debate when it works.

Adams has potential. As of right now. He has plenty of time to work on his skills. Cuz this preseason has hurt him, big time. IMO, Adams is lucky he did not start the year on PS. If Rivera could have sent him down, he damm sure may have.

Adams has done so well that AE made the team. I would be willing to bet that AE is our starting PR this year.

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Dude? Do you read what you post? AE did improve drastically last year as to catching the ball. Just because his return yardage does not meet your satisfaction, you call him lousy. The best PR only get 5 or so more yards than AE. Is that extra 5 yards really that important? With our O? Only to you, and a few others.

Armanti lead the league with 0 muffs. What part of that do you have a problem with? So what the return yards were minimal? He never cost us a possession. Whereas, Adams has 4 turnovers in four games. Yeah, that will turn some heads. The wrong way.

Ask Sproles, or Tolbert, or any of 20 playmakers that do not put the ball on the ground. Naming a few guys, then saying playmakers make mistakes, is exactly how you make a point. Using your own logic as a fact. Not a bad way to debate when it works.

Adams has potential. As of right now. He has plenty of time to work on his skills. Cuz this preseason has hurt him, big time. IMO, Adams is lucky he did not start the year on PS. If Rivera could have sent him down, he damm sure may have.

Adams has done so well that AE made the team. I would be willing to bet that AE is our starting PR this year.

Do you read is the question. All you are focusing is that AE didn't fumble....ignoring his inability to actually PR.

Edwards averaged a league worst 5.5 yards per punt. The best PR men only average 5 more yards? LOL. You just made that up....the 2 best averaged more than 10 yards more an attempt with multiple TDs. Every other team also had a longer best return...

Scoring playmakers do make mistakes.....Steve Smith fumbles going for extra yards, Cam throws picks trying to make a pass....your boy Tolbert puts it on the ground fighting for yards in a pile. Adams is a playmaker....he will make mistakes. Will dance and lose yards. You have to accept that playmakers will often try too hard to make a play....you live with that.

Role players.....they can't make the mistakes. They don't have the big plays to offset their mistakes.

I will take your bet. Adams has more return attempts than Edwards pending they have heathly seaons. Loser puts CRA/iamhubby was right and I was wrong in their signature.

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this team is looking for home-run hitters...you know, the big play guys. they aren't interested in playing it safe, not anymore. that was foxball. adams is the perfect PR for the direction this team is going. AE just isn't that guy. the only chance he has is making it as a WR and/or adams getting hurt or really screwing up and becoming more of a liability than is worth it. as long as adams can make PR attempts like we've seen so far that gig is his.

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Dude? Do you read what you post? AE did improve drastically last year as to catching the ball. Just because his return yardage does not meet your satisfaction, you call him lousy. The best PR only get 5 or so more yards than AE. Is that extra 5 yards really that important? With our O? Only to you, and a few others.

Armanti lead the league with 0 muffs. What part of that do you have a problem with? So what the return yards were minimal? He never cost us a possession. Whereas, Adams has 4 turnovers in four games. Yeah, that will turn some heads. The wrong way.

Ask Sproles, or Tolbert, or any of 20 playmakers that do not put the ball on the ground. Naming a few guys, then saying playmakers make mistakes, is exactly how you make a point. Using your own logic as a fact. Not a bad way to debate when it works.

Adams has potential. As of right now. He has plenty of time to work on his skills. Cuz this preseason has hurt him, big time. IMO, Adams is lucky he did not start the year on PS. If Rivera could have sent him down, he damm sure may have.

Adams has done so well that AE made the team. I would be willing to bet that AE is our starting PR this year.

Unless, I am seriously mistaken, I do not think this is true.

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Iamhubby.

Joe Adams had one fumble....not your fictional 4.

Joe Adams averaged 12 yards a return

Edwards averaged 1 yard a return

I know I take what is viewed as the unpopular stance on some issues here....but you claiming Edwards will be the starting PR guy this year is bolder than anything I have ever suggested.

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Good point Zod. I think Armanti is a play away from "clicking," his confidence will soar, and he will fill in the gaps as he goes from there. He showed great quickness and the ability to run after the catch this preseason. His route running is fluid and looked great.

I was jeering him along with most on this board who aren't App St. grads over the last year or so, but the underdog bit me... Now, he's still here and I'm pulling for him to show out this year and I hope he gets the opportunity to do so.

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Iamhubby.

Joe Adams had one fumble....not your fictional 4.

Joe Adams averaged 12 yards a return

Edwards averaged 1 yard a return

I know I take what is viewed as the unpopular stance on some issues here....but you claiming Edwards will be the starting PR guy this year is bolder than anything I have ever suggested.

you've got a point there.
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First. I said I was willing to bet that AE is our starting PR. CRA, as is his norm. Turned it all around to fit his needs. Read before attacking. Otherwise, bring it. I can take it. Adams has done more harm than good with his butter fingers. Rivera will start AE to save his team, and to give Adams a message. Protect the ball and you can play.

Adams is electric. So what. Until he can be trusted. He and teh jimmyz can warm the bench together.

Adams has had a fumble in the 1st game. (Actually, I think he had a muff and a fumble as well, that game.) A muff and a fumble last game. And I thought he drop one out of bounds against Miami. Either way it is at least 3 balls on the ground. 2 recovered 1 lost. Still not a good sign. Hence. AE starts. He is safe and dull.

But go ahead a believe a web site. You can't go wrong there.

Also never said anything about Adams other than to say he has potential. Oh my, how could I?

If Adams can't be trusted, he will be Goodsoned. Rookies that cannot protect the ball rarely see the field. Home run hitter or not, Rivera will not tolerate losing the football.

CRA, love how you throw out AE's one PR this preseason to add weight to you lame claim. AE can at least field a punt. Adams cannot do that without turning it into a close yours eyes, did he catch it?

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