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89 started screaming and cursing at Cam last night

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Proudiddy Grand Master

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Josh Norman needed to be benched... he was so bad I started to miss Munnerlyn.

Catman, I just didn't see it that way.

They were playing zone almost the entire game. He gave up some catches, but so did Gamble (and some YAC as well). This is coaching. Norman typically excels in man coverage or where he at least gets matched up and runs with a guy out of his zone.

I do NOT understand at all why we are giving opponents a 10 yard cushion every snap.

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ive never seen cam on the sidelines looking at pictures of plays or discussing with coaches how to fix mistakes. It looks like we have one game plan(which almost is like playground style) and if it works, good. If not, oh well.

It's beginning to look that way isn't it.

Newton and Chud both need to be reined in...sorry but its true and its the HC who does that.

They need to go back to smash mouth running the football until this calms down and I don't mean Newton running the football either.

The need to run the football, short passes, move the chains, and take shots.

Not this option poo, then bombs away. This is the NFL not Pop Warner.

JPP is just is big, faster, and quite possibly smarter than our QB and OC.

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It's beginning to look that way isn't it.

Newton and Chud both need to be reined in...sorry but its true and its the HC who does that.

They need to go back to smash mouth running the football until this calms down and I don't mean Newton running the football either.

The need to run the football, short passes, move the chains, and take shots.

Not this option poo, then bombs away. This is the NFL not Pop Warner.

JPP is just is big, faster, and quite possibly smarter than our QB and OC.

Just watching us play the Stains last week, when Drew was on the sidelines, they gave him pictures of each play and coverage. Us, it's just like I said, playground style.

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It's beginning to look that way isn't it.

Newton and Chud both need to be reined in...sorry but its true and its the HC who does that.

They need to go back to smash mouth running the football until this calms down and I don't mean Newton running the football either.

The need to run the football, short passes, move the chains, and take shots.

Not this option poo, then bombs away. This is the NFL not Pop Warner.

JPP is just is big, faster, and quite possibly smarter than our QB and OC.

Not to pile on but from a purely on the field look at the team, the lack of audibles and pre-snap awareness is concerning.

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ive never seen cam on the sidelines looking at pictures of plays or discussing with coaches how to fix mistakes.

They cut to one shot last night of Cam on the bench and a coach (Shula?) was beside him trying to show him some pix. Clearly, Cam wasn't interested, definitely not focused on it.

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Not to pile on but from a purely on the field look at the team, the lack of audibles and pre-snap awareness is concerning.

I'm not a football guru, so speaking of audibles, is this the reason Cam just does the count and that's it, while Manning spends the entire time under center on every play pointing and barking orders? That alone impresses the hell out of me for some reason.

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They cut to one shot last night of Cam on the bench and a coach (Shula?) was beside him trying to show him some pix. Clearly, Cam wasn't interested, definitely not focused on it.

I missed that, at least they attempted. I just don't ever recall seeing Cam on the sideline not with a towel on his head alone, this year or last. To be somewhat fair, I watched on NYG local tv last night and usually stream games so I don't always watch Panthers broadcast, where they might would show that more.

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I'm not a football guru, so speaking of audibles, is this the reason Cam just does the count and that's it, while Manning spends the entire time under center on every play pointing and barking orders? That alone impresses the hell out of me for some reason.

There's a clear lack of on-field communication with the team in general (not just Cam)

Maybe its because Chud is in the booth and Shula is the main sideline communicator for Cam while Ron just kinda stands there...I dunno but it results in fragmented in-game flow on offense

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I don't understand why the QB is allowed to sit on the bench and not be part of talking to the other QBs and coaches.

He is PART of the team he isn't THE TEAM.

On JPP, exactly, and BTW that was a player we had th opportunity to draft and didn't.

I don't mean to pile onto Newton, there are plenty of other issues with this team; but, QB is the leader. I saw it last year and thought, ok, he just needs to learn; but, in year 2, that crap in the press conferences and the sidelines to stop.

I manage people. I don't like it; but, I do. The way I act, the way I lead, the way I do things under pressure has a mirror effect on the people around me. Cam has got to get that and understand it. If it doesn't, it's over. Draft someone else.

If we are totally honest with ourselves, who on this board thought Newton could/would lead a comeback?

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I would have a problem with Smitty tearing into Cam (he gets upset when he's losing, there's no shame in that) except for the fact that he did his Superman after his touchdown. Like really? You just made it 33-7. Maybe wait till it's a 3 possession game before you start celebrating. That rubbed me the wrong way. I'm glad Smitty gave him a piece of his mind.

I think what youre missing is that Cam and Smitty's on field celebrations dont have anything to do with personal gratification. Theyre trying to pump the team up and get them fired up when they do that. Theyre NOT celebrating (maybe the Cam superman thing was a little). . but they are statements for the team not the individual player.

I realize a lot of you have never been in a leadership position in a sport before . . or played team sports for all that matters, but sometimes there arent any other options that can fix the problem on the spot in the game. You got to get out there make a play and then turn to the sidelines and go "AAARRRGHHHH BAM MUFUGGER! GO ON AND GET IT LIKE THAT BITCHES! CANT HOLD US!" You have to turn to the crowd and say "IT AINT OVER! PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER! THIS IS OUR HOUSE!". . . .

Otherwise, the common man will become accepting and complacent with losing or getting beaten. It is an incredibly difficult thing to do and even more difficult when you have a pro football sized ego.

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