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Cam vs. the elite

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Oh noes!! Cam lost again, we have made an epic mistake!!!!

Cam is young and the collective team around him has sucked a big fat one through his first 19 NFL starts. Cam is 7 -12 as a starter thus far.

Here is a look at the current NFL elite at the same point in their career.

Aaron Rodgers - 8-11

Drew Brees - 8- 11

Eli Manning - 9 - 10

Peyton Manning - 5 - 14

Patience. So silly people think Cam should be elite NOW......doesn't happen. Only QBs that won this early were game managers.....and we don't have the D for that.

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What bothers me is I don't see the type of progression I want from Cam. His completion % was up in those first 2 starts. However it feels like Cam is always in the shotgun and makes very few presnap reads. This read option is supposed to be training wheels on a mountain bike. Not a tricycle. Eventually he needs to become an elite passer that can resort to running. Right now he relies on the threat of his run to help setup the pass a little too much.

It's a great point that we are only in game 19 but with expectations raised he will need to meet them or be crushed by them. It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

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What bothers me is I don't see the type of progression I want from Cam. His completion % was up in those first 2 starts. However it feels like Cam is always in the shotgun and makes very few presnap reads. This read option is supposed to be training wheels on a mountain bike. Not a tricycle. Eventually he needs to become an elite passer that can resort to running. Right now he relies on the threat of his run to help setup the pass a little too much.

It's a great point that we are only in game 19 but with expectations raised he will need to meet them or be crushed by them. It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

Unlike most young QBs.....Cam makes difficult throws over and over and over. Watch RGIII play....he isn't being asked to make many legit throws.

I don't care about Cam being Tom Brady and being an elite passer that acts like a surgeon....I don't think he will be that. He can be an elite player who plays QB. Big Ben is elite....but he doesn't play the game like a Peyton Manning in his prime.

I am not sure we have the coaching staff in place for Newton. Chud seems lazy. Just seems content in putting games on Cam like he is 10+ yr Hall of Fame lock like Tom Brady out of the gate. I think the progression is bigger than just what Newton does.....

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Oh noes!! Cam lost again, we have made an epic mistake!!!!

Cam is young and the collective team around him has sucked a big fat one through his first 19 NFL starts. Cam is 7 -12 as a starter thus far.

Here is a look at the current NFL elite at the same point in their career.

Aaron Rodgers - 8-11

Drew Brees - 8- 11

Eli Manning - 9 - 10

Peyton Manning - 5 - 14

Patience. So silly people think Cam should be elite NOW......doesn't happen. Only QBs that won this early were game managers.....and we don't have the D for that.

even further last 5 super bowl champs in their first 3 seasons

· Eli Manning- 39 Starts, 52.9% comp, 54 TDs , 44 ints, 69.4 rtg. 20-19 record. Age at first playoff/ super bowl win 27

· Aaron Rodgers- 0 starts ; First playoff /SB win age 27

· Drew Brees- 27 Starts, 59.2%, 28 TDs, 45 ints, 72.2 rtg. 10-17 record. Age at first playoff win- 27/ SB win- 31

· Ben Roethlisberger- 40 starts, 62.9%, 52 TDs, 62 ints, 90.7 rtg. 34-12 record. Age at first playoff/ SB Win- 23

· Peyton Manning- 48 starts, 60.4%, 85 TDs, 58 ints, 85.5 rtg. 26-22 record. Age at first playoff win- 27/ SB - 30

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It's amazing how quickly the national media turned into vultures when he struggled. It's like they felt vindicated in their draft criticism.

i think there's some weight to this. people are quick to confirm their preconceived biases, and that, coupled with the fact that journalism by nature values being accurate and informed, lends credence to the idea that the media's starving for an see-I-told-you-so moment.

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