Game Grades: Panthers at Bears

[Darth Biscuit]

Pretty much dead on... Rivera just doesn't have the chops to make the right calls in tight spots... he's a poor game and clock manager and (as has been the trend for the Panthers pretty much forever) plays not to lose...

We have the talent on this team that a good coaching staff could mold into a championship team. This staff ain't it.

[2jakefansinva]

Team: A+

Coaching: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF (And that is grading on a curve)

the staff came in with a great game plan and the players excuted it.

we took away their biggest weapon....Hester.

this game came down to a couple plays that didn't go our way.

if there is no shanked punt or a smitty slip........... we arn't even having this discussion.

[Khaki Lackey]

And McDermott too. I wouldn't mind keeping Chud if he continues to progress with his play calling.

They all must go. This team needs an enema.

[SOJA]

Is cj not part of our defensive core too? He is only 26

[Matthias]

the staff came in with a great game plan and the players excuted it.

we took away their biggest weapon....Hester.

this game came down to a couple plays that didn't go our way.

if there is no shanked punt or a smitty slip........... we arn't even having this discussion.

Those things don't happen if this coaching staff wasn't scared stiff. We aren't shanking punts if we weren't so afraid of Hester. Even if Smitty didn't slip, we probably weren't going to score, and the Bears would have gotten the ball back and scored. Rivera played scared, and this was evident from the beginning of the game.

The players are the only reason we had a lead. The coaches lost it.

[2jakefansinva]

Those things don't happen if this coaching staff wasn't scared stiff. We aren't shanking punts if we weren't so afraid of Hester. Even if Smitty didn't slip, we probably weren't going to score, and the Bears would have gotten the ball back and scored. Rivera played scared, and this was evident from the beginning of the game.

The players are the only reason we had a lead. The coaches lost it.

well, if playing scared let's us whip teams like the bears on the road..........

then I'm all in for "playing scared"

ps.....the coaching staff had nothing to do with the shanked punt or smitty slipping.

[Matthias]

well, if playing scared let's us whip teams like the bears on the road..........

then I'm all in for "playing scared"

ps.....the coaching staff had nothing to do with the shanked punt or smitty slipping.

So you want to get beat in the last two minutes of every game? That is what you will get with Rivera and this staff. You forget the only reason they changed the gameplan was because of Hurney's firing. This staff is incompentent to the umpteenth degree. Are you arguing they should remain in place for next year?

Coaching put us in this situation. You mention the shanked punt, you're asking a rookie punter to kick the ball out of bounds because of Hester, what do you expect in such a fearful position? Smitty fell, but like I said, the Bears would have gotten the ball back anyway. Besides, why in the world are we throwing the ball in that situation. The play should have been a run to eat time off the clock. Stupid coaching lost us the game.

[Matthias]

Also if we look at the int with Smitty's fall, the ball was overthrown. I believe that would have been an int anyway even if Steve didn't fall, but he would have been in position to tackle Jennings.

[Navy_football]

Also if we look at the int with Smitty's fall, the ball was overthrown. I believe that would have been an int anyway even if Steve didn't fall, but he would have been in position to tackle Jennings.

Don't agree. The ball was high, not overthrown. It would have been a catch by Smitty in the air, or a drop by Smitty. If he raises his hands flatfooted the ball tips them.

[2jakefansinva]

So you want to get beat in the last two minutes of every game? That is what you will get with Rivera and this staff. You forget the only reason they changed the gameplan was because of Hurney's firing. This staff is incompentent to the umpteenth degree. Are you arguing they should remain in place for next year?

Coaching put us in this situation. You mention the shanked punt, you're asking a rookie punter to kick the ball out of bounds because of Hester, what do you expect in such a fearful position? Smitty fell, but like I said, the Bears would have gotten the ball back anyway. Besides, why in the world are we throwing the ball in that situation. The play should have been a run to eat time off the clock. Stupid coaching lost us the game.

I said the coaches came in with a great game plan.

and I see your blaming smitty's slip and a shanked punt on coaching.

[Matthias]

I said the coaches came in with a great game plan.

and I see your blaming smitty's slip and a shanked punt on coaching.

I blame the shanked punt on coaching. Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.

[2jakefansinva]

I blame the shanked punt on coaching. Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.

then you will blame anything on the coaching.

btw.....if your going to blame them then you need to give them credit for taking away

one of the bears biggest weapons ie....Hester and their special teams.

[King Taharqa]

I blame the shanked punt on coaching. Also, we aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow the Bears to play pitch and catch on the final drive. We aren't having this conversation if they dumped the read option after the Giants game. (If they never applied the read option) We aren't having this conversation if they didn't allow Roddy White to get behind the defense 60 yards down the field. I can go on and on...... It's the same story, different chapter.

Its like watching the same movie over and over. And you always know how the ending is gonna go. Same script, same director.

This summer I want the Panthers to come out with a movie called The Expendables starring Ron Rivera, and some of the Panther vets and scrubs.

[Matthias]

then you will blame anything on the coaching.

btw.....if your going to blame them then you need to give them credit for taking away

one of the bears biggest weapons ie....Hester and their special teams.

They didn't take him away at all. The shanked punt was a Hester play. Besides, Hester haven't done nothing all year, they even squibbed the ball when all the Bears needed was a field goal at the end of the game. This staff is hilarious.

By the way, kickoffs have been moved up last time I checked. Our kicker should have been able to kick the ball through the endzone, making the Bears start at the 20. Would that not be taking away Hester more effectively? To me the gameplan was, "We might get beat by an interception return for a TD, we might get beat by Cutler and Marshall playing catch, but we'll be jacked up if we get beat by Hester's return game!" Awesome plan Rivera!