Brandon Hogan waived

[Carl Spackler]

Jesus we are 9-30 since we beat the Saints in Week 17 of the 2009 season.

9-30.

[Chaos]

As much as we are all pissed, this move and others like it are still necessary to get this team right. We must continue to flush out the guys who have hung around without producing anything. There's no point in keeping a bum just because of where Hurney drafted him, that's the old mindset we need to get rid of.

[Rubi]

Cutting off the dead parts...more to come. I like this...just another step towards being a real NFL franchise...

[AceMan]

Only a year and a half removed from the 2011 draft and 5 of our 8 picks have already been cut. Son of a bitch.

Hurney Magic

[carolina-chuck]

Hurney still screwing us from beyond the grave.

I dont know why people loves to blame Hurney for a lot of the draft picks. The GM and HC are both involve in the players they choose to take. GM draft the players that fits the HC's system.

Hogan was a Rivera player. Just like Fua, McClain etc. Players who Rivera thinks is a right fit for his team.

If Foxy was the coach this year, I guarantee you Hurney wouldn't never had taken Kuechly at no.9. Rivera in two short years had me looking at the draft in a totally new view. I used to be able to be close to guessing what position Foxy was going to draft each year. In the two short years with Rivera, I have been wrong every single round of the draft except for Cam (QB). I know a lot of people never wouldve guess that we was going to take a LB in the first and a G in the 2nd this year. (more like a DT and CB)

Only exception is I dno why Hurney keeps taking players and converting them into another position, (i.e., Godfrey CB to SS and Sherrod S to CB and back to S; shouldve taken Sean Smith).

[Fox007]

Panthers 2011 draft

Kill me.

That is one shitty ass draft list.

[Fox007]

Is it that much worse than 2008-2010?

http://en.wikipedia....tory#2008_draft

Yea man...holy poo...For a team that supposedly builds through the draft we only get like 1 good player per draft.

[carolina-chuck]

Rivera 2011 Draft:

(1) Cam Newton

(3) Terrell McClain - Cut, Bust

(3) Sione Fua - Bust

(4) Brandon Hogan - Cut, Bust

(5) Kealoha Pilares - Poor ST player, close to being a Bust

(6) Lawrence Wilson - Cut, Bust

(6) Zack Williams - PS guy, Bust

(7) Lee Ziemba - Bust

BAD OVERALL DRAFT!

2012

(1) Luke Keuchly - Star

(2) Amini Silatolu - Solid

(4) Frank Alexander - Solid

(4) Joe Adams - still in ?

(5) Josh Norman - Solid

(6) Brad Nortman - Average, couldve had someone better

(7) DJ Campbell - bust? nothing more than a ST player

compare to something like this

2002: Peppers, Foster, Witherspoon, Wesley

2003: Gross, Ricky Manning Jr.,

2004: Gamble, Colbert (1 good year), Wharton

2005: TD, Evan Mathis, Hangman, (Haye and Ellison went on to have good season with other teams)

2006: Dwill, Marshall, Anderson, King

2007: Beason, Kalil, CJ, Rosario,

2008: Stewart, Otah, Godfrey, Schwartz, Bernadeau?

2009: Munnerlyn, "Bust draft"

2010: Lafell, Hardy, Gettis (close to bust)

[Fox007]

Honestly I wouldn't put Norman or Alexander as solid just yet but they do have potential.

Alexanders motor alone should make him a great player down the road. Hopefully he and Hardy push each other to greatness(via competition).

Norman needs more work but I like what he could be, he tackles well and certainly looks the part.

[carolina-chuck]

Honestly I wouldn't put Norman or Alexander as solid just yet but they do have potential.

Alexanders motor alone should make him a great player down the road. Hopefully he and Hardy push each other to greatness(via competition).

Norman needs more work but I like what he could be, he tackles well and certainly looks the part.

Where they were pick and being rookie and at time where they're giving opportunity to play, Id say its close to being more solid than "average".

[carolina-chuck]

Though at least it look better than Harbaugh's first two pick this year: AJ Jenkins and Lamichael James. RIght??? Give Rivera benefit of the doubt.

[Fox007]

Where they were pick and being rookie and at time where they're giving opportunity to play, Id say its close to being more solid than "average".

I don't consider anything but how well you play. Draft position doesn't matter, if you can ball you can ball.

But I feel you, they don't suck by any means.

[carolina-chuck]

I don't consider anything but how well you play. Draft position doesn't matter, if you can ball you can ball.

But I feel you, they don't suck by any means.

Well in that case, both of them call ball.

[Wine&Cheese]

Its about damn time! Other franchises seem to have a completely different outlook on their players. If you can't produce in the forseeable future, they cut their losses and move on...

If Gettis is not 100% AND productive by the end of the year, he should be released too. Some ppl act like its big news that his return will assure us a winning season. Im not hating on the guy, just being realistic... Gettis is not a Brandon Marshall or Hakeem Nicks, he's more of a Michael Crabtree type of contributor.

Marty would NEVER EVER admit he was wrong in the short term, even at the expense of the fans and franchise. Friends or not, I still dont understand how Richardson could allow this Marty's shortcomings to be accepted for so many years. Maybe im just an a$$hole but miss the playoffs 3 straight years and dat ass is fired!

As an owner, my loyalty is to the fans because they are who make it all possible! We deserve compentency in front office, not only to ensure we get value for our dollars spent but ALSO for our emotional investment as dedicated fans.