DeAndre Hopkins visiting Panthers today

[Sloth]

Oh please, don't try to conceal blind SEC/Clemson hate, and do some research. Nuk ran a 4.41 and 4.50 at his pro day, compared to White's 4.47. You're also comparing a 20 year old Nuk to a 7 year vet. White was HORRIBLE his first few years. I remember laughing at Falcons highlights because he'd drop so many of Vick's passes it was insane that he retained a starting spot.

I do agree he's probably not 14th pick worthy, but he would definitely be ideal if we could trade down into the 20s and pick up a third rounder.

1. So I shouldn't compare pro White to rookie Hopkins, but you should? Coming out they're very similar - but with Roddy being a better all around athlete.

2. Like most of the country I'm barely aware Clemson exists as a college sports venue. I literally don't care about them enough to hate them.

3. Interesting that Hopkins 40 at school jumped all the way from a 4.57 to a 4.41. He sure doesn't play like he's a 4.4 guy.

4. He's probably absolutely not 14th pick worthy.

[Growl]

His ceiling just isn't as high as you'd like from a WR1. He can be decent. But his potential is dwarfed by the others and there isn't a distinct enough difference between his floor and their''s to justify picking him over a Patterson or Allen.

[Sloth]

Anyways, to clarify, I think Hopkins is a good receiver who runs good routes and is very polished. I don't think he's ever going to be elite or special and don't see the point, especially at #14. We can grab smooth/polished in the second with Robert Woods.

If we're not going to grab our future #1, then don't bother with the position at all. Continue to hope that Smith holds together another year, LaFell shows up and Hixon's leg doesn't fall off and target the position in a major way next year.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

1. So I shouldn't compare pro White to rookie Hopkins, but you should? Coming out they're very similar - but with Roddy being a better all around athlete.

2. Like most of the country I'm barely aware Clemson exists as a college sports venue. I literally don't care about them enough to hate them.

3. Interesting that Hopkins 40 at school jumped all the way from a 4.57 to a 4.41. He sure doesn't play like he's a 4.4 guy.

4. He's probably absolutely not 14th pick worthy.

Agree he is not a burner but against 4.3 cbs like Xavier Rhodes he destroyed them..

[Growl]

Double post

[unicar15]

Don't really want tavon or Hopkins in the first unless we trade down. Patterson and Allen are only wr I'm sold on as first round picks. Go CB or OL in first and pick up WR later. There are a lot of good ones but IMO no great ones in this draft.

[CRA]

1. So I shouldn't compare pro White to rookie Hopkins, but you should? Coming out they're very similar - but with Roddy being a better all around athlete.

2. Like most of the country I'm barely aware Clemson exists as a college sports venue. I literally don't care about them enough to hate them.

3. Interesting that Hopkins 40 at school jumped all the way from a 4.57 to a 4.41. He sure doesn't play like he's a 4.4 guy.

4. He's probably absolutely not 14th pick worthy.

Coming out....Hopkins is simply better than White was.

I don think you watched Nuk....every immediately said when his combine time came out that it didn't reflect what they saw.....as no team could keep him out of the endzone.

If you don't think any WR is worth the 14 then fine....but it is really hard to argue WR X is worth it and Nuk isn't. Bc Nuk poo'd on whoever X is last year. Again, compare him to his teammate Watkins....Watkins has the higher ceiling. Nuk likely is the better WR. All depends how important that extra ceiling is to you....

[CRA]

Don't really want tavon or Hopkins in the first unless we trade down. Patterson and Allen are only wr I'm sold on as first round picks. Go CB or OL in first and pick up WR later. There are a lot of good ones but IMO no great ones in this draft.

and a large percentage of great ones weren't perceived as locks to be NFL greats....

[Growl]

White coming out was a very equatable prospect to Hopkins. Hopkins deserves to be talked about in the same range White went in. He would likely also take a few years of development to adjust to the physicality and overall speed (read: not running speed) of the pro game.

Don't pretend Hopkins is something he's not.

[CRA]

White coming out was a very equatable prospect to Hopkins. Hopkins deserves to be talked about in the same range White went in. He would likely also take a few years of development to adjust to the physicality and overall speed (read: not running speed) of the pro game.

Don't pretend Hopkins is something he's not.

White quit eating cheeseburgers and being lazy....finally got good.

I think Hopkins can be good quicker than White.

[Growl]

White quit eating cheeseburgers and being lazy....finally got good.

I think Hopkins can be good quicker than White.

Please provide a source of some sort that suggests that White, instead of needing the acclimation process to the NFL that a player of his build, style, and skill set would need when steeping up to the NFL, was instead just lazy and fat and apathetic.

[CRA]

Please provide a source of some sort that suggests that White, instead of needing the acclimation process to the NFL that a player of his build, style, and skill set would need when steeping up to the NFL, was instead just lazy and fat and apathetic.

Okay, my source is Roddy White. Give me 3 and half seconds....

[CRA]

There are better articles but that was a 3 second search...

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nfcsouth&id=13686&src=desktop

White talks about "finally growing up", quit eating crap food and taking things seriously, a coaching staff that finally showed him the importance of practicing hard bc he relied on just his natural ability to get by for so long, etc.

White has talked about it several times....how he went from a guy Atl regretted drafting to a stud. It wasn't just adjusting to the speed on the NFL....

[DaCityKats]

3. Interesting that Hopkins 40 at school jumped all the way from a 4.57 to a 4.41. He sure doesn't play like he's a 4.4 guy.

4. He's probably absolutely not 14th pick worthy.

he does play like a 4.4 as his 17 yard per catch avg backs it up. and he is worthy of the 14th pick. to many times he got vertically up the field and behind coverage.