PFF preseason grades for all teams and Panther vs Ravens grades

[CPcavedweller]

Well according to PFF we have the 2nd best secondary in the league. Must be the Gospel.

I don't think it has as much to do about our secondary as it does our front seven. Interceptions caused by feared pressure+lack of game planning has embellished that number a bit.

[CPcavedweller]

So I can't read the fine print, but what does the green column mean. For Cam to have been so awful yet have no red and a green, I'm guessing he was average? Our expectations have raised the bar for what we expect. If he doesn't look spectacular he sucks, if he looks good it was meh. Maybe we should all just be happy with wins but if Cam looks human and we start winning, how will the perception of him change?

[jtnc]

I've done my research own as well, and The Saints average six cheap shots a game.

[Jangler]

[IGSaint]

Good lord, looking at those grades, the reason for that -48 on the offense is because of the o-line. The pass blocking rates at -10.9 and the run blocking rates at -28.2.  Our passing rates better than the falcons, giants, packers with all the weapons they have on those teams. 

 

It's all about the o-line right now. If we can fix the o-line to above average with both the pass and the run game we will be better than ok.

[panthers90]

That Fua guy seems to be pretty bad.

[Big A]

So I can't read the fine print, but what does the green column mean. For Cam to have been so awful yet have no red and a green, I'm guessing he was average? Our expectations have raised the bar for what we expect. If he doesn't look spectacular he sucks, if he looks good it was meh. Maybe we should all just be happy with wins but if Cam looks human and we start winning, how will the perception of him change?

The people at PFF grade each play for each player -2.0 to +2.0. Here is a quick description from site:

3) How Do We Grade?

Each grade given is between +2 and -2, with 0.5 increments and an average of 0. A positive intervention in the game rates a positive grading and vice-versa. Very (very) few performances draw a +/-2 rating. In fact, the distribution of non-zero grades is like this:

+2.0 0.01percent

+1.5 0.3percent

+1.0 16percent

+0.5 37percent (unbalanced because of the way WRs and HBs are rated)

-0.5 24percent

-1.0 22percent

-1.5 0.5percent

-2.0 0.01percent

The grading takes into account many things and effectively brings “intelligence” to raw statistics.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

The red is used for grades lower than -1.0 and green for over +1.0. The green next to Cam is a +1.1 overall grade from a +0.9 pass grade and +0.1 rush grade. Overall it means he wasn't the reason the offense struggled, there is lots of red to blame for that.

[CPF4LIFE]

So I can't read the fine print, but what does the green column mean. For Cam to have been so awful yet have no red and a green, I'm guessing he was average? Our expectations have raised the bar for what we expect. If he doesn't look spectacular he sucks, if he looks good it was meh. Maybe we should all just be happy with wins but if Cam looks human and we start winning, how will the perception of him change?

 

It should be positive, because according to most naysayers nothing Cam has done up to this point matters because he hasnt been able to win. So if he starts wining without putting up spectacular numbers and they still knock him..... then that just tells you how they've felt about him from the very beginning.

[Razeyfingers]

Lol, Arianny looks jealous.

 

Thats not Arianny in the back thats other one uhmm. . . Edith Labell, had to look it up. Man she was always the hottest. Not sure what everyone sees in the other chic.

 

 

edit: Does Alice know he has literally been the brunt of thousands of jokes around here since he left? haha. . literally thousands.

[fieryprophet]

Yep, the PFF grades on our o-line wreck the curve. Cam's actually been grades decently considering the hell he's been through.

Hopefully they improve when it counts.

[Razeyfingers]

Are you sure? That is definitely Arianny in the background (third girl).

Celeste is ok. She has a cute face but no body. Which is a damn shame. She's Mexican. No excuses Arianny! Do some squats and start eating some more.

Labelle has a pretty face but I can't stand those fake tits.

 

Yes my bad, see I didnt even see her in that pic, thats Edith sitting second of course as you know then. . . thats what she does to me. Its in the eyes, I think. Maaaaan.

 

 

edit: where are my manners, we're talking about things the OP has no interest in, I forgot.

 

 

Alice's likes are wrestling, guys with mullets, and wrestling with guys that have mullets.

[RelaxImaPro]

I don't think it has as much to do about our secondary as it does our front seven. Interceptions caused by feared pressure+lack of game planning has embellished that number a bit.

 

Was being sarcastic.  I don't think anyone thinks we have the 2nd best secondary in the league while at the same time our pass rush graded out as slightly above average.

 

I was just pointing out that all statistics, as useful as they may be sometimes, have to be taken with a grain of salt or viewed within context.

[xav8tor]

The problem with these particular numbers is the fact that they violate a number of statistical analysis principles; for example, sample size/type (3 games, only one of which wherein the starters played together for a large part of the time, and against a limited set of opponents, which restricts validity to a subset of comparative strengths/weaknesses, at best), and nuisance variables (incorporates players who are not starters or in normal rotation, much less guys that don't make the team at all).