Peyton Manning and his accuracy issues, should Broncos be concerned?

[teeray]

I get it, I just think its a moronic attempt to cover up one of Cam's legit deficiencies.

Yeah. Except it isn't a deficiency. It is being a QB. Only some of our fans have him under so much of a microscope that every bad throw is about "his lack of accuracy".

It is BS. I am.not saying Can is goat and perfect and has nothing to work on.

But whenever I see people post about his accuracy they talk about a handful of plays in each game.

All I proved is that it happens to all QBs even the great ones, and there is no real evidence that Cam is abnormally inaccurate when compared with the rest of the QBs in the NFL

[teeray]

cam is 13-15 as a starter.compared to peytons record as a starter which im sure is way better.comparing cam to peyton is just insane.once cam has had a winning season as a starter then we can over look his over throws and so on.it is what it is.fact is look at peytons stats after the game.he can afford to do stuff like that.

Wait. So now we judge accuracy by wins and losses?

[Jackofalltrades]

It's usually a handful of plays in a game that decides the outcome.

Perfect example is Cam's throw to seal the loss against Seattle last season. An accurate throw would have likely won the game.

However, looking just at completion percentage paints a broader picture. Cam is under 60% for his career.

If he wants respect as a passer he's going to have to get above 60% and justly so.

[teeray]

It's usually a handful of plays in a game that decides the outcome.

Perfect example is Cam's throw to seal the loss against Seattle last season. An accurate throw would have likely won the game.

However, looking just at completion percentage paints a broader picture. Cam is under 60% for his career.

If he wants respect as a passer he's going to have to get above 60% and justly so.

That has more to do with decision making and the throws he has been asked to make more than anything to do with accuracy.

Alex Smith got replaced despite his 70% completion percentage. Completion % is not the best measuring stick for accuracy.

As a matter of fact Cam was more accurate in throws down field than his counterparts and made more of those throws than his counterparts (+20 yards)

[Jackofalltrades]

Cam needs to work on both. Better decisions will lead to a higher completion percentage. He still has some footwork issues to resolve too.

[CPcavedweller]

What excites me is Cam has surpassed Manning in all statistical categories to this point. If he continues to progress and has it in his head that he is going to prepare similar to Manning then Cam could be as good by that point in his career.

[Jackofalltrades]

What excites me is Cam has surpassed Manning in all statistical categories to this point. If he continues to progress and has it in his head that he is going to prepare similar to Manning then Cam could be as good by that point in his career.

Peyton threw 5 more TD's his rookie year, Cam threw 12 less in his first two seasons.

I love Cam, but I don't think we should get carried away. He has work to do as a passer. He needs to be more accurate and more clutch to be in the same conversation as Manning.

[carpanfan96]

Your not going to get a 64-65% completion percentage with the type of offense that Carolina has ran the last two seasons. Max is going to be around 60% just because of how many times Cam is asked to go deep down the field. 20+ yard passes on average are going to be in the 30% completion percentage range. Cam has been near the top of the league both seasons for completion percentage over 20+ yards. He doesn't really have accuracy issues for what's asked of him in the Turner offense. 

 

Cam's issues have been about footwork consistency and decision making. 

[Jackofalltrades]

It's the short to intermediate stuff I want to see him work on.

[CPcavedweller]

Peyton threw 5 more TD's his rookie year, Cam threw 12 less in his first two seasons.

I love Cam, but I don't think we should get carried away. He has work to do as a passer. He needs to be more accurate and more clutch to be in the same conversation as Manning.

Manning is great no doubt. All I was saying is that Cam is on that same progression chart if you were to plot it on paper. Cam also has 22 rushing TDs giving him a 10 TD advantage. I just want to continue to watch that progression rise which I believe will happen.

Unfortunately for Cam, he has had to carry this team. Sometimes singlehandedly responsible for wins and sometimes for losses. This fact doesn't help his perception in the media or folks around the league. Hopefully our D can step up because it is ludicrous for a QB to throw one interception and lose as many games as we have. Mistakes will be made and it's on the defense to pick it up. I think they can do that this year.

[teeray]

Your not going to get a 64-65% completion percentage with the type of offense that Carolina has ran the last two seasons. Max is going to be around 60% just because of how many times Cam is asked to go deep down the field. 20+ yard passes on average are going to be in the 30% completion percentage range. Cam has been near the top of the league both seasons for completion percentage over 20+ yards. He doesn't really have accuracy issues for what's asked of him in the Turner offense. 

 

Cam's issues have been about footwork consistency and decision making. 

 

Just to speak to that point.  Here is a list of the overall completion percentages of the top 14 QBs in terms of % of passes thrown 15+ yards last season.  I will highlight Cam's but I'm not going to write down every name.

 

 

58.8%

62.4%

54.1%

54.8%

59.7%

57.7%

64.1%

59.8%

56.4%

59.9%

58.1%

54.3%

53.7%

57.1%

 

So out of the top 14 QBs in terms of percentage of throws that traveled 15+ yardage, only two got to 60% (that was Kaep and Russell Wilson)

 

Out of the people who did not cross that 60% threshold you have guys named Luck, Flacco, Eli, Cutler, Stafford

 

When you are throwing down field, you will have a lower completion percentage.  58ish% is fine for the type of offense we are running.  And that % for Cam will get better as he makes better decisions.

 

But his accuracy as a passer is fine

[Hardy Johnson]

I understand we're on a panthers forum and there is bias, but damn.

[Razeyfingers]

I understand we're on a panthers forum and there is bias, but damn.

 

Its almost like they think a 6'6 pro bowl QB is no comparison to a 5'11 game manager.

[footballisasport]

Cam is being scutinize because everyone knows he isn't choosen to be the "next great qb." Is Luck every throw and action scrutinized? NO! Anyone who believes that the endless scrutinizing of Cam isn't been done by those who are still butt hurt over his sucess when they feel he should fail, are either un serious denial, are butt hurt themsleves, or simply looking for attention.

Every qb makes bad throws during a game but the ridiculous level some take it to with Cam, gets an eyebrow raise from me.

As a matter of fact, u can bet any amount of money that even if Cam threw 10 tds someone on NFLN or ESPN would give him credit but turn around and end the praise with a criticism. And, some on here would follow suit and do the same.