Ron Rivera et al close to ruining Cam Newton

[Fox007]

Goes back to people down playing there D.

Washington is one of the few LBs built to spy and handle Newton.....and he literally only did that all game

 

I never down played their D....AZ has had a good D for awhile....

 

But I know what you mean...you can tell the people on here who ONLY watch the Panthers...like penciling us in for 5-2...lol

 

Funny stuffs

[Fox007]

More specifically, is DeAngelo paying attention to how pedestrian Trent Richardson has looked this year, and Chud's got an extra first round pick from sending him away

 

Take a poll on here to see who this site thinks has more talent as well....us or Cleveland.

 

Oh and the QB position....hah

[Makish]

Cam in 3 years

 

Decision making ability did get better( less TO's )

 

Still cant run conventional offense( Like Colin and RG3)

 

accuracy got slightly worse( over throws more than his rookie year)

 

footwork in the pocket is still bad

 

not consistent

 

not clutch

 

doesnt trust anybody other than Smitty and Olsen

 

needs to throw over the shoulder pass that all elite QB's throw

 

holds the ball too long

 

EXTREMELY BAD PLAYCALLING ( not Cam's fault)

 

is a loser at  this point in his NFL career( Luck, Wilson are winners)

 

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I hope he turns it around, but at this point Cams career is heading toward the J.George  path(aka all the talent in the world but is just a loser in the NFL)

 

[MichaelNewtonII]

LOOK AT MY POST ON THE "STOPPING NEWTON" THREAD

The Ron Rivera regime, initially blessed with a gift like Cam Newton has systematically moved away from Newton's strengths in favor of a poorly conceived, sloppily executed offense performing at an increasingly ineffective rate every Sunday.

 

 

We're a very short year plus from Cam dominating the NFL.

The  only question is where will Cam be when he re-establishes himself as one of the NFL's best?

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/30/putting-cam-newtons-rookie-season-in-perspective/

 

 

Must watch TV:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpPTNarjG7w

 

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[tailg8or]

Quite simple, something or someone  has taken the Cam out of Cam.  More than one opportunity against the Cards for Cam to tuck the ball and take off, especially after he already stepped-up in the pocket and had plenty of space.  Instead, he chose to wait ... scramble ... and eventually got sacked.  It's like having a great weapon in your holster but never using it. 

 

Key drops by our WRs were drive-killers.  Most games are decided on a few plays and unfortunately, we're often on the losing end of those.  Poor execution by the offense.  We work very hard at being less than mediocre.

[footballisasport]

I am saying that he is a third year QB and is still having issues reading defenses and going through his progression quickly.  I am not saying that he is not smart enough to master these mental aspects of the game....only that as of now he has NOT mastered them.

 

Intellingence....work ethic...etc.  Not sure what is the cause...just that he has not made the next step in the pregression of an NFL QB.

 

I was told by one of the Panthers coaches two years ago that Cam struggled to read defenses....and it looks like he still does.

 

As "fans like myself"....ones that can take a step back and evaluate our QB without homer glasses on.  Most of you sound exactly like the ignorant Falcons fans did when they have Vick as their QB.  They made every excuse in the book for him...OL, coaching, WR's etc.  However, the Falcons had the exact same WR's and OL when Ryan was drafted.....and their offense tooka  huge step forward.

 

Yes, it is this team's third season with Cam and it's the same ish. And the first thing you turn to is Cam's mental capacity because God forbid if it's anything outside of Cam?

 

Mad, let me break down the past three seasons of Cam's career as a Panther: First season..Defense was like a sifter and quite droken down. Allowing the opposing team to score easily. What did the Panthers Do...They just put more pressure on Cam and the Offense to handle the weakness of the Defense.

 

Second season, the Secondary is now breaking down and the Defense is coming along but still not ther. What does the Panthers do? Put more pressure on Cam and the Offense to carry the team.

 

Third season..Now the O-line is broken...Your Defense has gotten better and Secondary is still struggling a bit...How does the team and fans handle the problems...Look to Cam to run more and throw more, without getting Intercepted, get the ball out of his quickly and accurately before getting tacleld and play defense if he has too.

 

No where is endless discussion of it's seriously time to stop this ish and start fixing this team's problems instead of burning out Cam. And, by this time other teams have realizes that the Panthers had pretty much made Cam the end all to be all on the team, so they ignore rest of the team simply go after him...What's the end results, folks like you questioning Cam's growth. SMDH

 

Lazy team...Lazy end results. Not your QB's fault. Just because he's athletic and talented doesn't mean he should be worked like a horse. After three seasons one would think some of you would realizse that.

[carolina-chuck]

Did you see Carson throw 3 in a win? I did

Yea I couldn't tell who was who: Cam and Palmer.

[coralreefer_1]

Not gonna read 6 pages of crap to say....

 

 

A bunch of no name folks on a message board DO NOT know better than people who have player/coached/managed in the NFL (this isnt pee-wee, high school, or even whatever bumfug college you went to) league

 

Leave the managment decisions to those who have ALL the information, and make decisions based on information everyone on this board WISHES they had.

 

Jump ship mofos...you are not wanted here.

[CRA]

Take a poll on here to see who this site thinks has more talent as well....us or Cleveland.

Oh and the QB position....hah

If you exclude QB and look at offenses around the NFL.....we rank fairly low.

People give us a bump bc of a RB duo that was beastly years ago and unwavering love of 89.....that distorts reality.

Team around Cam isn't strong.

[LinvilleGorge]

Not gonna read 6 pages of crap to say....

 

 

A bunch of no name folks on a message board DO NOT know better than people who have player/coached/managed in the NFL (this isnt pee-wee, high school, or even whatever bumfug college you went to) league

 

Leave the managment decisions to those who have ALL the information, and make decisions based on information everyone on this board WISHES they had.

 

Jump ship mofos...you are not wanted here.

 

 

If we did this, this board wouldn't exist.  See ya.

[LinvilleGorge]

If you exclude QB and look at offenses around the NFL.....we rank fairly low.

People give us a bump bc of a RB duo that was beastly years ago and unwavering love of 89.....that distorts reality.

Team around Cam isn't strong.

 

The truth hurts.  When a lot of people (including a lot of us) look at Double Trouble and Smitty, we're having images of Double Trouble and Smitty from a few years ago dancing in our heads.  We're not looking at the current reality.  Smitty has lost two or three steps at this point, JStew simply can't stay healthy, and while DeAngelo still shows some flashes, he just doesn't have that magic as a runner that he once did.  The poo OL and shoddy supporting cast isn't doing anything to help matters.

[KendrickPanther]

He did.  I agree...  what I want to know, and it will take someone with far more football IQ than me to say, is WHY is he holding the ball?

 

Is it his ability to read the coverages?  Something that I think has improved, but still needs work...

 

Or is it the fact that the receivers aren't getting open?

 

It's really hard to tell watching the broadcast footage because they focus on the ball, not the guys running routes...

 

There were times yesterday where Cam had plenty of time in the pocket, and didn't make anything happen.  I want to know why.

 

I don't know the playcalls or the reads so I can only speculate. But it feels like Cam throws to open receivers instead of throwing receivers open. It's easy to see a receiver is open but that takes a long time to develop and the DB can bait you. It's hard to throw a receiver open but you can get rid of the ball much faster.

[KendrickPanther]

If you exclude QB and look at offenses around the NFL.....we rank fairly low.

People give us a bump bc of a RB duo that was beastly years ago and unwavering love of 89.....that distorts reality.

Team around Cam isn't strong.

 

Deangelo is having a great season running the football. He's probably still top 5 statistically. Steve is clearly not a no.1 anymore. Personally I think we misuse him. He can't run up the sideline and outjump elite CBs anymore. Ginn has been a pleasant surprise though.

[Kevin Greene]

 

LOOK AT MY POST ON THE "STOPPING NEWTON" THREAD

 

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