Andrew Luck can't afford to fail.

[LinvilleGorge]

Seriously, why hasn't this trolling dipshit been banned yet?

[Guest KingKam]

Lol NO RG3 was a track star! Luck is a very mobile qb tho. And has trucked a few people in his day. He's just not as elusive or powerful as Cam. he's more of an Aaron Rodgers type of runner.

Which is not saying much, of course.

[Guest KingKam]

I just wanted to try the "race baiting troll" act out.

I feel dirty, not sure how KingCam keeps it up.

Well, you surely failed on that one.

[Guest KingKam]

Luck to me is by far the best young QB in the NFL. 

What does that even mean? That's the point of this thread. You say it but you don't even know how to explain what makes him best. You say it just because you want it to be that way. But, what if he fails?

[Mr. Scot]

Dude, Andrew Luck is not a failure by any stretch of the imagination.

I understand what you're trying to say (I think). But I disagree with your premise that pure pocket passers are somehow lesser QBs than more athletically gifted QBs. It all depends on the guy, and the situation. Moreover, Luck is an athlete. He is not some lead-footed tortoise in the pocket the is unable to elude pressure by a step here or there, or straight take off down the field.

In my opinion, a better post would have been how the powers that be in the NFL been rethinking the role of mobile QBs, and their ability to effectively and successfully play the position. Where you made your error was thinking that you have to put pure pocket passers down to prop up more mobile and athletic QBs that have ascended to a certain level of prominence in the league in recent years.

There is room for both types of QBs, and particularly QBs that can do it all. But, at the same time, there will always be a place for pure pocket passers who are accurate and make good decisions.

Good post. Just be aware you're not talking to someone who's trying to make a sensible argument :lol:

[Guest KingKam]

The psychology seems to be that if the media says a particular QB has the "necessary tools to be the next great QB," then we must blindly believe them. The same thing applies when they say a certain QB needs to "prove himself" and they set out to endlessly scrutinize him.  

 

Case in point Luck and Cam and how they are treated by both the media and fans and to some degree, the teams. Trent Richardson was well worked out during the Colts game last night but are those in the media putting the lost of the team on Luck? NOPE! They are putting the team lost on Richardson and the rest of the team. Luck gets some blame too but more in regards to the team "not stepping up to help him." Folks buy into the BS and simply repeat the nonsense.

 

But when the Panthers lose, not only is it Cam's fault but some folks, including the media, will justify their feelings by ignoring the team endless mistakes and simply focus on picking Cam's game play apart. They then go into the usual: "he has accuracy and footwork issues, and needs to improve" nonsense. You will never hear anyone both in the media or fans, saying Smitty or the Panthers need to step up and help Cam, like they do with Luck.

 

And Cam isn't the only QB. There are a lot of QBs in this league who are way more talented than Luck but are not the "Chosen QBs" so they have to make their teams look good, not the other way around, and they have to "prove themselves" under endless scrutiny.  

Thank you sir for watching the same sports I'm watching.

[Guest KingKam]

LOL No. fuging RG3 was a track star as well.

 

 

Luck is very fast for a QB, only a tenth or so slower than Newton. 

If this were the 100 meter, Cam would leave Luck in the dust. Being that Newton have this freakishly long legs it takes a little longer to reach top speed. As you can see in this gif Cam starts to separate from him once he reaches top speed. Bolt has similar body type with Cam and he also starts too.

[Guest KingKam]

Luck also gives a calming vibe, which I don't get from any of those Qbs named. He does everything right and seems real, which can't be said about a lot of those other mobile qbs. He was asked after yesterdays game if the loss was bad & asked about the clinching INT. He said this loss is the worst because its fresh, & that's true. He also said you can't blame the WR for a lot of what happens because there is a lot of things that happen during the game in which the WR helps out the QB. I don't think the mobile QBs really understand the intangibles of the game as well as a Luck would. Also, the "mobile" Qbs are A, gonna have to be as big as Cam is, or B, theyll be playing with a serious injury some point early in their career. The positions gonna continue to be won by what goes on in the QBs head, the athletic stuff is cool & flashy, dunno if its a superbowl winning style though.

Maybe it's all in your mind. By the way, Luck have difficulty dropping the ball between the DB and Safety, that's why he got intercepted. I can tell you adore Luck just by reading your words. You mentioned nothing related to football.

[footballisasport]

What does that even mean? That's the point of this thread. You say it but you don't even know how to explain what makes him best. You say it just because you want it to be that way. But, what if he fails?

 

So true.

[footballisasport]

LOL No. fuging RG3 was a track star as well.

 

 

Luck is very fast for a QB, only a tenth or so slower than Newton. 

 

Being fast and elusive on a track is not the same as on the field. Cam is  built like a sleek truck for a QB, plus he is quite elusive.

[stirs]

Can't remember the last time I was on a 3 day drunk

[footballisasport]

Luck also gives a calming vibe, which I don't get from any of those Qbs named. He does everything right and seems real, which can't be said about a lot of those other mobile qbs. He was asked after yesterdays game if the loss was bad & asked about the clinching INT. He said this loss is the worst because its fresh, & that's true. He also said you can't blame the WR for a lot of what happens because there is a lot of things that happen during the game in which the WR helps out the QB. I don't think the mobile QBs really understand the intangibles of the game as well as a Luck would. Also, the "mobile" Qbs are A, gonna have to be as big as Cam is, or B, theyll be playing with a serious injury some point early in their career. The positions gonna continue to be won by what goes on in the QBs head, the athletic stuff is cool & flashy, dunno if its a superbowl winning style though.

 

What do you mean by this? I don't get why "mobile QBs" which usual was/is a code word for "black QBs," understand the intagibles of the games less than those immoble QBs.

 

I saw the game last night. What part of Luck's performance gave you the impression that he has a "calming vibe?" The guy never even seem to look for anyone else besides Trent Richardson for most of the game. He was dinking and dunking for most of the game. The couple of times he did look down field, he either over threw the ball or his receivers had a bad case of the drops.

 

This is my third time watching Luck play and it's the same style of dinking and dunking that he was doing the previous two times. I honestly don't know why he's seen as being any better than Dalton. I guess when you have well connected family members and friends in the sports media, it helps.

[Mvp2014]

Wow. Still at it Kk? You are either very lonely or very dumb. Very very dumb

[Floppin]

If this were the 100 meter, Cam would leave Luck in the dust. Being that Newton have this freakishly long legs it takes a little longer to reach top speed. As you can see in this gif Cam starts to separate from him once he reaches top speed. Bolt has similar body type with Cam and he also starts too.

 

 

Being fast and elusive on a track is not the same as on the field. Cam is  built like a sleek truck for a QB, plus he is quite elusive.

 

Did I ever say that he wasn't?

 

Look, I hate Luck and I think that he's not really that great and by all accounts he's having the very definition of a "game manager" type year. He's posting below Alex Smith type numbers. 

 

But the idea that he's not athletic, let alone a "lead foot" is fuging moronic and anyone who argues from that perspective is a damned fool.