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*FreeFua* Grand Master

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hardy is a first round tag.

he has the second most sacks in the NFL. and is in the top 3 best defensive ends in the nfl right now.

Hear me out before you jump down my throat.

I understand Hardy is HUGE part of why our DL is so good against the run and pass. And I know Hardy is still young. But say we could get a first, third, seventh this year, and maybe a fourth or something like that next year.

With money being so tight this offseason this would allow us to address many needs in the draft. 2 1st rounders, 1 second round and 2 third round picks. This is how teams become good for long periods of time as opposed to having good years here and there.

I realize our D relies on our DL to get pressure before getting exposed but with the extra pick maybe we can get another DE too. I wouldn't be mad if Hardy stayed, but if DG drafts smart and gets good value for Hardy, it could be huge for this franchise.

We are just a couple pieces away from being a dominate team, we have such a good foundation with Cam on O and Keek on D.

1st round: WR, DE or OL (BPA)

2nd round: WR

3rd round: CB, OL or DE whichever we didnt draft in 1st

What do you think?

You seem like someone who is usually pretty level headed, so I'm curious to hear your opinion. My opinion can sometimes be bias because I like Cam so much and want to surround him with weapons so badly.

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Hear me out before you jump down my throat.

I understand Hardy is HUGE part of why our DL is so good against the run and pass. And I know Hardy is still young. But say we could get a first, third, seventh this year, and maybe a fourth or something like that next year.

With money being so tight this offseason this would allow us to address many needs in the draft. 2 1st rounders, 1 second round and 2 third round picks. This is how teams become good for long periods of time as opposed to having good years here and there.

I realize our D relies on our DL to get pressure before getting exposed but with the extra pick maybe we can get another DE too. I wouldn't be mad if Hardy stayed, but if DG drafts smart and gets good value for Hardy, it could be huge for this franchise.

We are just a couple pieces away from being a dominate team, we have such a good foundation with Cam on O and Keek on D.

1st round: WR, DE or OL (BPA)

2nd round: WR

3rd round: CB, OL or DE whichever we didnt draft in 1st

What do you think?

You seem like someone who is usually pretty level headed, so I'm curious to hear your opinion. My opinion can sometimes be bias because I like Cam so much and want to surround him with weapons so badly.

 

depends on the price of keeping Hardy.

 

There's a line that you can't cross that sacrifices the betterment of the overall team. He crosses that line, trade him immediately. Our D might suffer a little bit next year for it. But with all those picks. we have a real chance to build a dynasty because our core players are so young. Just have to hit on the picks.

 

 

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depends on the price of keeping Hardy.

There's a line that you can't cross that sacrifices the betterment of the overall team. He crosses that line, trade him immediately. Our D might suffer a little bit next year for it. But with all those picks. we have a real chance to build a dynasty because our core players are so young. Just have to hit on the picks.

And that was one of the main problems with Hurney, he'd constantly cross that line. Hurney would sign one or two guys to stupid deals which wouldn't allow him to fill other needs with decent players.

If we traded Hardy for a handful of picks, it would also allow us to go for decent FA's like Tillman. It will be interesting to see what happens. Plus we have Cam and Keek's contracts coming up as well.

A good, smart offseason this year, could have DG sitting pretty in his office for quite some time.

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Matthews, not even close...better route runner. Better speed, Better hands. More production with a worse QB in a better conference, for three years...let's not forget Benjamin was nothing without Winston. I don't see how it's even close. Because he's big? Ramses Barden is big, Dwayne Jarrett was big. How are they doing?

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Why do you think Matthews has hit his ceiling? What evidence do you have that this is as good as he is gonna be? You never know how a guy is going to do in the big time. That just sounds like a lazy excuse to draft someone else.

I dont think he has, he just doesnt have the potential benjamin does. He is more polished though IMO and would have a greater immediate impact.

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Matthews, not even close...better route runner. Better speed, Better hands. More production with a worse QB in a better conference, for three years...let's not forget Benjamin was nothing without Winston. I don't see how it's even close. Because he's big? Ramses Barden is big, Dwayne Jarrett was big. How are they doing?

People here are enamored with his size, but i guess they forgot who the best wr in the NFL was for a couple years with Dehlomme at QB.

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Matthews, not even close...better route runner. Better speed, Better hands. More production with a worse QB in a better conference, for three years...let's not forget Benjamin was nothing without Winston. I don't see how it's even close. Because he's big? Ramses Barden is big, Dwayne Jarrett was big. How are they doing?

 

I totally agree.  To me Matthews is hands down one of the best football players in the draft and I don't get why people are disregarding him.  He just seems to understand the game and have the natural ability to seek the ball.  If a guy isn't 6'4+ or around a 4.3, it'll reduce the bandwagon size.   

 

I'll tell you though...considering that our staff was looking at Keenan Allen so hard last offseason, I see us giving Matthews a ton of consideration.  He consistently had bad QBs and still was breaking records.  Just an excellent overall football player, disciplined, great route running, and a body of work to show for.  I see him having a huge ceiling.  People tend to tie the measurables with ceilings and it's bullocks I tell you, bullocks.  Plus he's still 6'3 205 ~4.45.    

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