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Rivera says Cam wasn't consulted in WR moves

TN05

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WOW!! Grand Master

WOW!!

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I prefer to keep the humor in my smileys. Yours is found in your content :D

For future reference, if you're going to use Google to try and make people think you're more knowledgeable than you really are, make sure you at least get your facts straight.

Step 1: Brag about extensive knowledge

Step 2: Get easy to remember facts wrong

That's the formula for an epic fail, and you followed it to perfection :lol:

By all means, keep trying to come up with something to get your credibility back. It's too late, mind you, but the attempts are entertaining.

Wow I didn't know I had any credibility. I just came here to express my opinion not make internet buddies or break news stories.

But know I see that you want total strangers to like you. I guess caring what strangers on the internet think of you gives you credibility. Good for you Scot I'm glad you gain some self-esteem from your interaction on a football forum.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

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Wow I didn't know I had any credibility.

 

You don't.

 

 

I just came here to express my opinion not make internet buddies or break news stories.

But know I see that you want total strangers to like you. I guess caring what strangers on the internet think of you gives you credibility. Good for you Scot I'm glad you gain some self-esteem from your interaction on a football forum.

 

Self-esteem?  Nah.

 

Laughs?  :lol:

 

(game / set / match)

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run1stdownrun2nddown

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I find it hard to believe that Smith, Lafell, Ginn, and Hixon were beat out last year in practice. How is it that our passing offense ranked in the bottom 1/3 of the NFL and we had these gems just sitting on the sidelines?

 

Again, our passing offense was not in any way elite, so why did we have help just sitting on the bench and even with injury down the stretch they still couldn't get playing time?

 

If that is the case, both Rivera and Shula need to be fired immediately for wasting a real opportunity to compete for a SB.

 

BTW, they couldn't have beaten them out in practice this year as this year's practices have yet to begun. 

 

I can't answer your first two questions for sure other than to say I would guess the staff felt they needed a little more time to develop.

 

However if you've been following the interviews/conversations with Getts and Rivera this offseason they have made it clear that our young WR's are going to get chances this year. So again, obviously they impressed enough in practice last season that Getts decided it best to let our current WR's go and rebuild/give the younger guys a shot.

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Restructuring does nothing to help the team. Just pushes money back. Honestly I was a bit surprised when I looked back at his numbers from last year. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/235157/steve-smith

 

He didn't even break 70yds in any game last year...

 

Can't you restructure contracts adding years? Steve Smith not breaking 70 yards was an anomaly. He was hurt for several games, but he also had to do it all himself, yet again. I believe Olsen won't have nearly the same numbers this year without Smith drawing attention.

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Can't you restructure contracts adding years? Steve Smith not breaking 70 yards was an anomaly. He was hurt for several games, but he also had to do it all himself, yet again. I believe Olsen won't have nearly the same numbers this year without Smith drawing attention.

 

LOL why would you want to add years? You want to hurt this team even more than it is now?

 

Not breaking 70 yds for a 15 game season isn't an anomaly. He only missed 1.5 games. It is old age. In the past Steve Smith could do it all himself. He did it for 10+ years and that really tells you something when he couldn't do it this year. 

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LOL why would you want to add years? You want to hurt this team even more than it is now?

 

Not breaking 70 yds for a 15 game season isn't an anomaly. He only missed 1.5 games. It is old age. In the past Steve Smith could do it all himself. He did it for 10+ years and that really tells you something when he couldn't do it this year. 

 

Considering his statistics in 2011, and 2012 I would have to disagree. The system he was in last year just wasn't productive in any way. Cam had to carry the offense on his back for us to barely squeak out a win.

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Seattle's offense was better than Carolina's in rushing, passing and scoring. Marshawn Lynch is better than everyone on the Panthers offense, they're primarily a rushing team and have invested in their O-line and spent 2 high picks on the RBs behind Marshawn.

This is precisely why several people have said we are a year or two behind the likes of Seattle or SF. They had monster defenses and have been able to build out the offense through the draft and FA.

We have built out our monster defense and as we draft and shed contracts, we will build our offense up as well. That's the problem I have with most people on this board. People act like some window has closed on our ability to win a championship, and it's several YEARS premature. We have like $20MM+ this year going to Jordan Gross, Steve Smith, Jon Beason, and Deangelo Williams. Only one of those guys are going to have any meaningful playing time this year. You want to know where is our offense? There you go. We will draft oline and we will draft WR's and we will pickup complementary pieces through FA and we will win a Super Bowl, but because we didn't sign Desean Jackson and Hakeem Nicks people throw childish tantrums.

If you think one FA period put the 49ers or Seahawks where they are then you are impossible to get through to.

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This is precisely why several people have said we are a year or two behind the likes of Seattle or SF. They had monster defenses and have been able to build out the offense through the draft and FA.

We have built out our monster defense and as we draft and shed contracts, we will build our offense up as well. That's the problem I have with most people on this board. People act like some window has closed on our ability to win a championship, and it's several YEARS premature. We have like $20MM+ this year going to Jordan Gross, Steve Smith, Jon Beason, and Deangelo Williams. Only one of those guys are going to have any meaningful playing time this year. You want to know where is our offense? There you go. We will draft oline and we will draft WR's and we will pickup complementary pieces through FA and we will win a Super Bowl, but because we didn't sign Desean Jackson and Hakeem Nicks people throw childish tantrums.

If you think one FA period put the 49ers or Seahawks where they are then you are impossible to get through to.

 

I hope you weren't directing most of that post at me lol. I agree 100% with you.  The Panthers aren't active right now and people want to complain because there's nothing else going on, after the draft everyone will be back on board.

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I hope you weren't directing most of that post at me lol. I agree 100% with you. The Panthers aren't active right now and people want to complain because there's nothing else going on, after the draft everyone will be back on board.

Not directed at you at all. I tend to speak in generalities with words like "you" and it seems directed at one person but it's really not meant to be so I apologize.

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Can't you restructure contracts adding years? Steve Smith not breaking 70 yards was an anomaly. He was hurt for several games, but he also had to do it all himself, yet again. I believe Olsen won't have nearly the same numbers this year without Smith drawing attention.

Not when the player says they are onky playing for two more seasons.

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Considering his statistics in 2011, and 2012 I would have to disagree. The system he was in last year just wasn't productive in any way. Cam had to carry the offense on his back for us to barely squeak out a win.

 

I don't know how much you watched steve smith play in the past but I have been watching since 2003 and smith clearly didn't have the same speed, jump, or physical play I am use to seeing in the past. He looked very average in the eye test.

 

Everybody gets old and their play drops off. Only 12 WRs 35 or older have made it to 1000 yds or more in a season which should tell you something. You don't have a rebound year to 1100 yds at this age. 

 

Don't forget about the shelf life of a player. RBs usually hit their wall at 30. Look at guys like LT, Shawn Alexander, Steven Jackson, Michael Turner, and many more RBs. They could have multiple pro bowls for several years and bam they just seemed to lose it all and are out in a year or 2.

 

I am happy that Steve could go on til 34-35  but this is bound to happen. You can't escape from the hands of time.  

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